Anita Erskine: Communicating on your own standards
Our guest is Anita Erskine, a distinguished media and communications leader renowned for her advocacy in women's empowerment and entrepreneurship. The conversation delves deeply into the crucial theme of redefining success on one's own terms, a concept that resonates profoundly with listeners seeking to navigate their personal and professional journeys.
Anita articulates her experiences, illustrating how courage and self-acceptance can transform challenges into opportunities for growth. She provides insights on the significance of storytelling and the power of presence, emphasizing the need for authenticity in all endeavors.
This episode invites listeners to reflect on their paths and the empowerment that arises from embracing their unique narratives.
Takeaways:
- Nkechi and Anita discuss the importance of redefining success on personal terms, encouraging listeners to embrace their unique journeys.
- Anita emphasizes the significance of resilience in the face of rejection and the power of maintaining a strong sense of self-worth during challenging times.
- The conversation highlights the necessity of grounding oneself in faith and the belief that one is chosen for greatness, reinforcing the idea that self-doubt can be countered with spiritual confidence.
- Listeners are encouraged to cultivate routines that empower them daily, as consistent practices lay the foundation for achieving personal and professional goals.
- Anita shares personal anecdotes illustrating how she transformed her setbacks into stepping stones, proving the importance of learning from failures to achieve future success.
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Transcript
Great day.
Speaker A:Amazing human.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Welcome to Empowered at My Skin podcast where our mission is to help 1 billion people in this world think in more empowering ways.
Speaker A:Empowered humans empower humans.
Speaker A:So you are in the right place to become a lead domino for empowerment today.
Speaker A:My name is Nkechi Mwaho Robinson.
Speaker A:I'm not only your host, but I am a vibrant optimist obsessed to bring you empowering content with every single episode.
Speaker A:We will bring you weekly content alternating between longer episodes with featured guests and a shorter episode called Empowering Bites where I will be joined by my co host, Gabby Memone.
Speaker A:So if you're ready, let the show begin.
Speaker A:Great day, amazing humans.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:To all the youtubers I know you can already see my amazing guest.
Speaker A:To anyone that's listening, get ready.
Speaker A:Our guest today is a globally celebrated media and communications leader who works whose work spans continents and industries.
Speaker A:With over two decades of experience in storytelling, strategic communications and advocacy, she's a powerful voice for women's empowerment, entrepreneurship and inclusive development.
Speaker A:From hosting award winning, an award winner herself, hosting award winning television shows, to shaping global conversations on leadership and innovation, she's redefining what it means to use media for impact.
Speaker A:And anywhere where her presence is, let me just tell you how powerful it is that it transcends to the people that are in the room in a way that is so unique and I think I'm going to say personal, which I think is such a power to, to, to how, I guess how God moves through her.
Speaker A:Anyway, so really, really excited.
Speaker A:We are going to talk about how she has found courage to redefine success on her own terms.
Speaker A:Like, this is a woman who really walks this plan planet on her own terms.
Speaker A:And so please give it up.
Speaker A:Give a gigantic podcast welcome to the amazing Anita Erskine.
Speaker B:We'll hype ourselves up.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Oh, we always need a hype girl.
Speaker A:We always need a hype human around us.
Speaker B:Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker A:Excited to share that you are in Ghana and I'm on the east coast.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So you are four hours ahead of me.
Speaker A:So how's today been?
Speaker A:I'm just kidding.
Speaker B:Today has been a blessing.
Speaker B:You know, Monday, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, any day for me at all, it's every day is a blessing.
Speaker B:Any time of the day is a blessing.
Speaker B:As long as I'm alive, I'm well, I can do something that I love.
Speaker B:I, I can spend time with someone that I love.
Speaker B:Then you know what?
Speaker B:Then it's a blessing.
Speaker A:It's a blessing, isn't it?
Speaker A:I woke up this Morning.
Speaker A:So excited.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I'm not even disappointed yet.
Speaker A:Like, today's already.
Speaker A:Today is always a great day.
Speaker A:Today is always a great day.
Speaker A:So as a first question, what has been your most empowering after all of that, what's been your most empowering thought of the day you've had so far?
Speaker B:Know that when you are on your way towards, or up in whatever your.
Speaker B:Your ambition may be, on your way towards a part of a journey that.
Speaker B:That excites you, that the universe and the world has a way of testing to see if you're really ready for this greatness.
Speaker B:With little tiny things you may see or hear or taste or smell, they can distract you in a way that almost makes you wonder if you are doing the right thing, you are the right person, you are at the right place.
Speaker B:But because of grounding, because of faith, because of this thing we call the power of the Holy Spirit, you are then also immediately reminded that, yes, you have been chosen for this.
Speaker B:Never doubt yourself.
Speaker B:And if you have to pause and say a quick prayer to kind of like bring the forces back together to face whatever it is in front of you, then do so.
Speaker B:That's.
Speaker B:That's something that.
Speaker B:That happened, you know, very early to me this morning.
Speaker B:And I have to say, God, this is why knowing you, being your daughter, being in communion with you, is my ultimate superpower.
Speaker B:Effy.
Speaker A:Okay, so I'm gonna just stick there for a second because I believe what you just described.
Speaker A:Like, I would say that.
Speaker A:I would say your results are in your routines.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:So there's something that is so important every single day to sort of continue to get yourself ready for the day.
Speaker A:Like, I think that the best amongst us, and I'm going to talk about what I believe is, like, so unique about your presence.
Speaker A:But the best amongst us have these great routines that set us up for what you just described.
Speaker A:How do you, or what can you suggest to those that are listening who teeter behind what I'm going to say you just described as the power of the Holy Spirit.
Speaker A:So I do believe that when you are in spirit, when you are moving through this world is you move like nobody, like no other human on the planet.
Speaker A:When you're.
Speaker A:When you just stay in spirit versus the, The.
Speaker A:The natural right, like getting.
Speaker A:Getting caught up in the whole conformity of the world.
Speaker A:So what are the tools that you use in the tactics to have more of these empowering moments and thoughts that you've had to today, which I think are.
Speaker A:Is extremely a powerful way to live your day?
Speaker B:I Think I start off with acknowledging how impossible it is for me to realize whatever it is I want to realize on my own because I'm so human that little things get to me.
Speaker B:I'm so human that I'm disappointed by rejection.
Speaker B:I'm so human that when I fall, I cry because I bruised myself.
Speaker B:But when I forge an alliance with my God, whom I believe wrote my name in this great book, and under my name wrote all the bullet points of the great places I would go and the person I would become, when I acknowledge that, listen, I have this armor.
Speaker B:I have this companionship.
Speaker B:I have this union.
Speaker B:When I fall, I will still say, ouch.
Speaker B:But I will say, that must have been for a reason, and I will clean it up, and I will learn from what made me fall and, And, And.
Speaker B:And prepare not to fall the way I fell.
Speaker B:Again, when I come across something that, you know, kind of like rubs me off the wrong way, I will take 30 seconds to go, okay, why could I possibly have come into.
Speaker B:Into.
Speaker B:Into this space or into this moment, onto this, you know, experience?
Speaker B:Is it something that I did?
Speaker B:Is it a choice that I made?
Speaker B:And then there's always that prayer that says, father God, I cannot change the past, but I can definitely, whatever has just happened to prepare me for the future, there must be something in the future that you want to prepare me for.
Speaker B:So honestly, it's this knowing that if I were to just pursue this journey on my own.
Speaker B:Oh, sister.
Speaker B:Tears with tears and.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And bruises will be bruises.
Speaker B:And I've done that before.
Speaker B:I've done the human thing of thinking that I'm strong and powerful on my own and so I can conquer.
Speaker B:And that I've fallen flat, flat, flat, flat.
Speaker B:And I've asked, why am I flat?
Speaker B:And God has said, well, because you are not designed to struggle the way you are making yourself struggle.
Speaker B:I never designed you to be on your own.
Speaker B:So get up and know that with me, you can conquer anything and you can go there.
Speaker A:I love that you said that.
Speaker B:Yeah, I've got you, huh?
Speaker A:You know, I love that you said it, because I truly do believe when you go with God, it's free.
Speaker A:I think it's free.
Speaker A:Alignment is free.
Speaker A:When you choose not to, you pay a price.
Speaker A:Massive price.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:We can start a church.
Speaker A:I wasn't meant to preach, but it's just.
Speaker A:I'm call like, you're.
Speaker A:You're like, this is coming from here.
Speaker B:You know, it costs nothing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know, there was something so beautiful you said about, you know, making my own Rules or, you know, doing things on my own terms.
Speaker B:You know, I'm able to do this because it's like, surely before I was conceived, you had a story written for me.
Speaker B:Surely, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:And surely if I were to try to design this destiny blueprint on my own, I would make horrible mistakes.
Speaker B:I wouldn't get the mathematics right.
Speaker A:Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker B:God, you have to.
Speaker B:You have to be in control.
Speaker B:Good or bad times, high or low times, you have to be in control.
Speaker B:Because on my own, I'm totally powerless, completely powerless.
Speaker A:So you are a master storyteller.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And what I was saying in the B roll, y' all, is I was talking to a couple of people about.
Speaker A:They were like, why did you get your makeup done?
Speaker A:I'm like, you're not supposed to notice.
Speaker A:I did my makeup.
Speaker A:I was like, well, look, that's the one that I'm able to do today.
Speaker A:I said, because I'm about to meet with this.
Speaker A:And I don't even know, really.
Speaker A:You are a true force, and I mean that in most respectful ways.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Like, I think we're all unique, and we're all.
Speaker A:We all hold, a DNA that nobody else in this world.
Speaker A:What I really love about you is that you have.
Speaker A:You fully understand that.
Speaker A:And so my next question is really around.
Speaker A:I have to just say, like, I think what attracted to me right away was your presence.
Speaker A:And so how.
Speaker A:What's the story that you try to convey through your fashion, through, like, just.
Speaker A:Let's just start with your fashion.
Speaker A:Through your fashion, like, is that you're, like, from your nails to your hair to your.
Speaker A:To your clothing, like, it is telling a story.
Speaker A:What is.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:Intentional?
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:I think it's as simple as I love who I am because I am weak.
Speaker B:And then I can be strong, and then I can be invincible, then I can be invisible.
Speaker B:Then I can be all the things that I claim I have been.
Speaker B:And I don't claim to know everything, but I claim to know enough about myself to know how I want the other person in the room with me to feel when I'm in that room.
Speaker B:And if it's being colorful on that particular day because I want to bring color into the space, then so, you know, so be it.
Speaker B:You know, expressing myself through my nails, and so be it.
Speaker B:But ultimately, I exist to tell the story of individuality.
Speaker B:1, 2.
Speaker B:I exist to tell the story of this proud African that I am, this continent that I'm continuously learning about.
Speaker B:That always blows my mind.
Speaker B:You know, the beauty of what we have the beauty of what we don't have, the beauty of how far behind we.
Speaker B:We have been, and the beauty of the force of the collective, of people who are just trying to push the continent forward.
Speaker B:It's all translated in this thing that we call presence.
Speaker B:So my presence is to get you to ask me one very important question.
Speaker B:And that is, who are you and where are you from?
Speaker B:Hey.
Speaker B:And then I know, ah, the door is open.
Speaker B:Here comes the story.
Speaker B:That is, walked into a room and I blended in.
Speaker B:And you know, I mean, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker B:I mean, would you bother to.
Speaker A:Oh, girl, you know, but I need you.
Speaker B:It's almost like, yes, I don't need permission from you or anyone to be who I am, but I do and would like permission to just seep into your mind so you remember who I am or you remember what I represent.
Speaker B:And that's the story behind making sure that my appearance speaks to a story untold that is waiting to be told.
Speaker B:And then, you know, my spirit, shareable.
Speaker B:I can share the spirit, but I can only share the spirit by walking up to you and say, oh, hello, I'm Anita and I want to tell you about myself.
Speaker B:So I ask and knock on that door.
Speaker B:How I present myself, I love that.
Speaker B:So that we ask, you have to.
Speaker A:Ask, tell us, where are you from?
Speaker A:That is like, who are you and.
Speaker B:Where are you from?
Speaker A:Anyway, thank you everybody for joining us on this podcast.
Speaker A:And that was.
Speaker A:That concludes your empowerment for today.
Speaker A:Like, that's all you need.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's all you need.
Speaker A:That's not all you're gonna get right now.
Speaker A:So backstory a little.
Speaker A:We met at Jitex and by the way, Jitex has been sort of the experience that keeps giving.
Speaker A:I actually had the pleasure of interviewing Augustine Wia.
Speaker A:His episode goes live on.
Speaker A:He's phenomenal.
Speaker A:Like, I met him in the 10x stage.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, but I just want to share with the audience how generous you are.
Speaker A:So day one, I'm sitting in the audience at the 10x stage.
Speaker A:We were, we the Firehood.
Speaker A:It was the delegation that I, I went down with and we were holding court on with a couple of panel interviews and, and, and whatnot.
Speaker A:And this woman Anita was hosting that stage.
Speaker A:And yet on this.
Speaker A:And it was more than that because of your presence.
Speaker A:But you had this beautiful outfit that I was just like, I have to know where she got that outfit.
Speaker A:Kind of like, ask me.
Speaker B:You see Billboard.
Speaker B:Ask me.
Speaker B:So I can tell you.
Speaker A:But the most mind blowing thing happened all I said was, I want to know who's the designer, where can I purchase it, where can I get it?
Speaker A:And your generosity has transcended in ways that I actually don't even know how to say.
Speaker A:I'm so grateful, other than like, wear that outfit with pride and know who it came from and support that person to the nth degree as much as I can for the rest of my life.
Speaker A:Like, I don't know how else to show my gratitude, but that outfit is now in my closet because this woman so generously just said, what's your what's.
Speaker A:And you know what?
Speaker A:You conned me, man.
Speaker A:Because I know that was where it was going.
Speaker A:There's no way I would have just openly walked myself up into it's free.
Speaker A:But I had to learn my manners as well, because I do believe when somebody wants to gift you with something, you have to.
Speaker A:My girlfriend said you need to just give her your sizes.
Speaker A:Like, because you, you wanted.
Speaker A:Anyway, we had this wonderful WhatsApp exchange.
Speaker A:And not only did she, she never actually told me where she got it.
Speaker A:She says, I'm getting it for you.
Speaker A:What's your address and what are your sizes?
Speaker A:And I was like, what's going on right now?
Speaker A:And not only did I get one outfit, but I got two.
Speaker A:And anyway, just, I've worn, I wear them with pride.
Speaker A:I've worn them to really established places.
Speaker A:The other day I, I knew that I had to do it justice.
Speaker A:And I, and I share that because I just want to.
Speaker A:I think you have given permission through that experience, and I recognize probably you've done it multiple times over.
Speaker A:You give permission to others to take a chance to express themselves the way that you do.
Speaker A:I'm just letting you know.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:And, and, and isn't this our time?
Speaker B:I mean, let's speak selfishly about being bold, black, ambitious African women with a global perspective.
Speaker B:Not waiting for anyone to say, go left, go right, but go left.
Speaker B:We, we are going left, we're going right.
Speaker B:But I believe there is something about, you know, this whole story you've told about the outfit for me is a representation of how we have to move.
Speaker B:I cannot go by myself.
Speaker B:I don't even want to go by myself.
Speaker B:Nkechi.
Speaker B:I don't want to be in that room by myself.
Speaker B:Do you know how it feels for like minded women to just spot each other from across the room and laugh at jokes that only apply to us or comment about a jollof that only applies to us?
Speaker A:We're not gonna talk About Jollof on this.
Speaker B:No, let's not even lose anyway.
Speaker B:But isn't this.
Speaker B:Isn't.
Speaker B:Aren't we tired of not even having the courage to ask a sister, what.
Speaker B:What product do you use?
Speaker B:Oh, hey, you know, I.
Speaker B:I love that Fireside Chat.
Speaker B:Could you share your notes?
Speaker B:Because when I say this is our time, I mean, you have something I need, I have something you need.
Speaker B:And that's what movement is all about.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We're talking about fashion.
Speaker B:And it may seem like, yeah, it's just fashion, but it's not just fashion.
Speaker B:About how I want my sister to show up at her next big opportunity or her next big gig, because I know how she'll walk and I know how she will feel.
Speaker B:And this desperation.
Speaker B:Call it desperation.
Speaker B:I don't care.
Speaker B:This desire and this desperation to have many more of us feel this ounce of pride wherever we are and this.
Speaker B:This ability not to feel like we are alone because we've been alone for too long.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker B:We.
Speaker B:And we've been the only ones in a certain position in corporate.
Speaker B:We've been the only ones in a certain position and whatever it is, enough is enough.
Speaker B:So if that alliance means we're going to forge an alliance through fashion, so let us forge an alliance through fashion.
Speaker B:If the alliance means we're going to forge the alliance means we're going to forge a collaboration through like minded businesses, let us do that.
Speaker B:We don't have 10 years, 15 years, 20 years.
Speaker B:We have a window.
Speaker B:And so that's my backstory.
Speaker B:And that's why I needed to send you those outfits.
Speaker B:Because I just wanted to show you that Inkechi, you are not by yourself.
Speaker B:You may be on the other side of the world, and I may be on the other side of the world.
Speaker B:Many.
Speaker B:Much like many of our sisters or brothers, but we are together.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And the truth is that story, I tell it more so to what you just expressed.
Speaker A:It created the connection.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And it's from that connection that way more value is.
Speaker A:Is derived from.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So it is.
Speaker A:That is just it.
Speaker A:It's the derivative of that connection.
Speaker A:So let's like you have a voice even just in the.
Speaker A:I don't know how long has it been in the 20 minutes that we've been talking like the.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The range of the.
Speaker A:The range of your voice.
Speaker A:And I would love if you could take us back to.
Speaker A:And I'm going to say a younger Anita, because I think there is something so profound when a child really does recognize that she has a voice.
Speaker A:I'm Going to say a girl child, right, that she has a voice and that it matters.
Speaker A:And where did that happen for you in.
Speaker A:In sort of your life journey?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So I think knowing that I.
Speaker B:Knowing that I could sing to an audience at the age of nine.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:Now, when you're nine, you're singing because maybe mommy says sing, Daddy says thing, or maybe you're singing as part of the church choir.
Speaker B:You are singing, right?
Speaker B:You don't know that you are expressing something.
Speaker B:You don't know that the music that's coming out of your mouth is.
Speaker B:Is changing how somebody feels or it's making someone feel reassured.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You just know that you're singing, and at the end of it, you just know that, oh, everyone's clapping so you know you've done something good.
Speaker B:I was blessed and I've always been blessed with being around older people.
Speaker B:So starting with my parents, you know, last of eight.
Speaker B:So natural, naturally, growing up with elderly parents and that.
Speaker B:That depth of wisdom that always came down.
Speaker B:Listen, I wasn't always the best child.
Speaker B:I mean, I.
Speaker B:I've been naughty before, you know what I mean?
Speaker B:But even in my naughtiness or in.
Speaker B:In my being this child who just wouldn't get the right grades in school, what your parents say to you and how it seeps down at that age can either make you or break you with me.
Speaker B:It made me because my parents would always say, you know, you are better than this.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You are better than this.
Speaker B:And I remember my father of blessed memory, he always used to end with his.
Speaker B:His, what we call in Ghana, his blasting with, you are better than this.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So as a child, when you perform in front of an audience and you're singing, you do believe that you are.
Speaker B:You are good.
Speaker B:And with every opportunity, you believe you are better than what you were yesterday.
Speaker B:That then evolved into, you know, becoming an adult.
Speaker B:But I guess maybe understanding the range of my voice was only when I lived in Canada where that range became, you are at the back of the room, literally and figuratively.
Speaker B:How do you get the person at the front of the room who otherwise wouldn't recognize you, to stop and listen?
Speaker B:And it's where I started to convert and mold and force my singing voice to evolve into a speaking voice where a story should be told, but it should be told across the sea of thousands of people with or amongst whom you are a nobody, mind you, as an African student, international student, coming into a country like Canada, I mean, it's People, it's movements, it's things.
Speaker B:Who are you?
Speaker B:Where are you?
Speaker B:So it feels a little long winded, but I'm telling you that it's where, you know, in the confusion of who am I?
Speaker B:And also in the beauty of discovering that, wow, Africa is actually so many cultures and so many people, and all of us being in this new country, leaving our families back at home, being by ourselves.
Speaker B:For me, then I started to say, okay, Anita, how do you use your voice?
Speaker B:How do you use your voice?
Speaker B:How do you use your voice?
Speaker B:So that singing voice, which I knew I had and I've always had, then eventually started to become this storytelling voice, because I realized that the more I boldly and courageously told my story in rooms where there were so many people who didn't look like me, the attention.
Speaker B:And then the more I told stories that helped me to express not only who I am, how I feel, and in my mentality, the more people started to trust whatever it is that I was saying.
Speaker B:So that's the migration from the singing voice to the storytelling voice.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:And it's powerful.
Speaker A:I haven't heard you sing.
Speaker A:I want to now, so are you gonna bust into song right now?
Speaker B:All to Jesus I surrender all to him I freely give I will ever love and trust him in his presence daily give I surrender all Surrender all All to you, my blessed savior.
Speaker B:I surrender.
Speaker B:Oh, my God.
Speaker A:God, who are you?
Speaker B:God's child, baby girl.
Speaker B:God's child who I am.
Speaker A:Gosh.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker A:We just have to hold space for that.
Speaker A:That was beautiful.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker A:I love how God's work feels through you.
Speaker A:Because it's a feeling.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Hey, y' all.
Speaker A:I don't know this.
Speaker A:I honestly don't know you.
Speaker A:I met you on a profound experience, like going to Morocco doing Jitex was the first of a kind for me as an angel investor.
Speaker A:Well, just that whole experience felt spiritual.
Speaker A:And then this.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, your knees.
Speaker A:And it's not done yet.
Speaker A:Trust me.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:And so there was something I wanted to double click.
Speaker B:That was beautiful.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So moving us forward as the host of this.
Speaker A:Let me catch my.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker A:So because you talked about the ability to Back of the room, how do you, like, how do you move a message through thousands?
Speaker A:Like, thousands and massive amount and different.
Speaker A:I thought it might be good because you do have experience.
Speaker A:I was looking here in our notes, so you have probably.
Speaker A:My team says you've moderated over about 700 global events.
Speaker A:Is that.
Speaker B:Wow, true?
Speaker A:That's a lot.
Speaker A:That's a lot.
Speaker A:That's a lot of traveling.
Speaker A:That's a lot.
Speaker A:That's a lot.
Speaker A:And I can't even imagine the amount of people that you've connected with.
Speaker A:But so how do you tailor your, your communication style?
Speaker A:Because to your point, not every room is created equal.
Speaker A:Not the playing field is not flat.
Speaker A:There's different for 700.
Speaker A:I mean, Morocco was a little bit of a culture shock for me because I've never been in a Muslim country.
Speaker A:Like, like, you know, like that.
Speaker A:So how do you, how do you navigate that?
Speaker A:How did you learn that?
Speaker A:And what tips can you give to us?
Speaker B:I think the first thing with what I do and how I do what I do is appreciating the diversity of cultures.
Speaker B:What that means is every single word, language, phrase, even how you introduce people is culturally, must be culturally aligned.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You can never assume that the Ghanaian audience is the same as even the Nigerian audience or even the South African audience or the Egyptian audience.
Speaker B:So preparation for me is absolutely key.
Speaker B:Listen, I love to have a good conversation.
Speaker B:And in that conversation I am so, so curious.
Speaker B:I ask every single question I can think of.
Speaker B:A lot of the time people think, well, if I ask too many questions, they might think I don't know what I'm about.
Speaker B:But I honestly say, listen, this is going to be the first time for me either in this space or on this kind of platform.
Speaker B:And I know that I can do the opportunity justice, but I would love your guidance on how to navigate this room.
Speaker B:And you know, I love to read.
Speaker B:And I always say that Inkachi, you cannot be a great communicator if you don't like to read.
Speaker B:You must read.
Speaker B:Or okay, well, even better, you must listen.
Speaker B:The best communicators are the ones who listen and pay attention to the nuances.
Speaker B:Even as, let's just say as an African audience, your African audience is even extremely diverse.
Speaker B:Protocols are very diverse.
Speaker B:So how I would host a high level presidential event in Ghana is very different from how I will host a high level presidential event in Rwanda.
Speaker B:So you have to understand what are the differences, what are the cultures, what are the do's and don'ts and not stick to how you do things and kind of waltz into a room saying, by the way, I'm Anita Erskine and this is how I do it.
Speaker B:And it also comes to the element of respect.
Speaker B:Respect your audience, respect your audience's time, respect your audience's intelligence, respect your audience's expectations.
Speaker B:And never assume that someone knows who you are.
Speaker B:So by all means they should accept, accept whatever it is that comes out of your mouth.
Speaker B:Always respect every room that you walk into.
Speaker B:And maybe lastly, be open.
Speaker B:You said something poignant and I, and I believe in Morocco you said the same thing.
Speaker B:This is the first time for you.
Speaker B:And when you walked into that country, even at the airport, you would have felt the difference.
Speaker B:You would have felt, okay, this is very, very different.
Speaker B:The difference between an Inkechi who would have enjoyed that difference and an Inkechi who would have said, oh my goodness, so weird.
Speaker B:It's the opening.
Speaker B:And as a key leadership communicator, you have to be open because you really never know what's going to be waiting for you.
Speaker B:So be open minded and be broad spirited.
Speaker B:That's what I like to call it.
Speaker B:Be broad spirited, learn, listen, understand.
Speaker B:You don't always have to accept, but you always have to respect perspective.
Speaker B:You have to accept it, but you always have to respect perspectives because that's then what nurtures your wisdom wherever you go.
Speaker A:That's powerful.
Speaker A:That is powerful.
Speaker A:And the other thing that I think was powerful is I think something that we often get wrong.
Speaker A:The normal of us, I'm going to say, is just making the assumption that just because they look like me means that my natural style is going to be okay.
Speaker A:I think that studying that, that education, that listening irrespective of whether the room looks like you is still really important work to do.
Speaker B:That's crucial.
Speaker B:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker A:That's really big.
Speaker A:Wow, okay.
Speaker A:Gosh, this is such a masterclass.
Speaker A:Like I feel like I'm more so trying to pick up like your, your wisdom.
Speaker A:So, so what?
Speaker A:Like that was a fast forward like you just gave people like when they listen to this.
Speaker A:Like you should, like, I've done this, I'm doing it.
Speaker A:I'm successful.
Speaker A:I've run 700 global events.
Speaker A:Like here, here's the chicks of the trade.
Speaker A:Failure.
Speaker A:What's a big lesson that you learned the hard way as it relates to communication?
Speaker B:If you don't fail like a winner, you will never succeed.
Speaker A:Oh, I'm gonna say, yeah, yeah, you need to.
Speaker A:And you need to explain.
Speaker B:If you don't fail like a winner, you will never succeed.
Speaker B:That means when you fail, accept why you failed because it'll prepare you for the next opportunity.
Speaker A:I get that.
Speaker A:I like the way you framed it, why you failed.
Speaker B:Don't blame your failure on what someone didn't give you.
Speaker B:Why did that person not give to you?
Speaker B:Because you didn't prepare to take or to ask or to demand what that person should have given to you.
Speaker B:If you don't, if you don't accept that failure, you are not winning.
Speaker B:And ultimately is an accepting that failure that then allows you to pursue and to push forward towards what will make you successful.
Speaker B:So if you don't fail like a winner, you will never succeed.
Speaker B:And Inkechi, it cuts across.
Speaker B:The thing about communication is when you, you know, in what I do, maybe communication is really broad.
Speaker B:So let me just kind of like focus on what I do in what I do.
Speaker B:As an example, I'm just coming from Geneva, just finished a high level UN event and I am feeling so good about my success over there right now.
Speaker B:The thing about why I was successful is because previously when I have hosted one or two UN events, I've thought, oh, the same joke that kind of got the room cracking in, I don't know in Egypt should get the same room cracking here.
Speaker B:And when it hasn't worked, I've stopped and said, okay, why didn't that joke work?
Speaker B:Or why didn't.
Speaker B:How I introduce this person with this particular title, why didn't it work?
Speaker B:Failing then and accepting why that didn't work and coming back and doing the homework is what then prepared me for the success that I am, you know, I've just enjoyed.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:You see what I'm saying?
Speaker B:So as a communication person, or as, as actually not just a communication person, as anyone who wants to own.
Speaker B:You want to own your narrative, you want to own your path, you want to own your journey.
Speaker B:When you fail, accept why you failed.
Speaker B:If you failed because someone didn't do what they were supposed to do, go back and figure out how, how you weren't able to foresee that, that someone who wasn't doing what they were supposed to do would lead you to fall or would fail.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:You can't be in control of everything.
Speaker B:I accept, but at least you can be in control of how you accept your failure.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And you know, I feel like it's, it's interesting because in my, in my, one of the things I've done in my life is I was a professional bodybuilder.
Speaker A:And, and commonly when you win, when you win a bodybuilding show, the best amongst us would still go to the judges to ask for feedback.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Because even though you won, doesn't mean that you're perfect.
Speaker A:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:And, yeah, but what I love about what you said is I think on the, on the failure side and, and how sort of it resonated with me like What I've kind of interpreted from it is like failure, like owning failure, like a winner.
Speaker A:The proof points is the win, right.
Speaker A:Like there are some proof points to take from it that will continue to bet that is the true, that is the win.
Speaker A:Oftentimes if you have won, you miss on the proof points because you think you've won and you, and you go on to the next event and then you try to do the same thing.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And you know, it's an epic.
Speaker B:You are so.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:You just, you've just, you've just masterclassed me right now.
Speaker B:Because it's to me that what made you win yesterday does not guarantee your win for tomorrow because what made you win yesterday is a set of standards that may not be adequate for tomorrow's competition, by the way.
Speaker B:So even if you don't, if you don't go back and say, listen, I know I did this and I know I won and I really would love a few more pointers.
Speaker B:It doesn't elevate you, it standardizes you or it stagnates you.
Speaker B:You know what I mean, girl are so smart.
Speaker A:This is true.
Speaker A:This, this is actually, this is actually, it's actually very true.
Speaker A:I work on my intelligence every day, you know, you know, I'm getting ready.
Speaker B:No AI here, no AI here.
Speaker B:Just no African intelligence, no AI, no artificial intelligence.
Speaker B:Oh my goodness, girl, you got.
Speaker A:And it's so the reason why I actually focus on my mind a lot is because I recognize the best amongst us.
Speaker A:It is the one thing that we.
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:It like our bodies are naturally changing.
Speaker A:I can't remember how much it is but like in, in four to six months all of our skin cells have been regenerated.
Speaker A:I think it is, isn't it?
Speaker A:Or the lining of our stomachs or is our lining of our stomachs in four to six months and our skin over the course of like a period of like a month or whatever.
Speaker A:But essentially who I am like physically is not the same.
Speaker A: Like who I am in: Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A: Is not the same person in: Speaker A:I'm a completely re.
Speaker A:Re.
Speaker A:Redone human being.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:From cells perspective.
Speaker A:But it's the mindset.
Speaker B:But isn't it.
Speaker B:It is even with the mindset, isn't it doesn't change.
Speaker A:I was going to say the mindset is if we don't the mindset.
Speaker B:But isn't that the problem though?
Speaker B:Because when, when we don't change our mindset the way our cells regenerate, you know, our, our hair follicles Regenerate, get stuck in an era.
Speaker A:That's the thing.
Speaker B:And when evolution happens, we think that God is being unkind to us because, you know, we're changing and things are changing and people aren't speaking to us the way they.
Speaker B:But there's a blessing in it, right?
Speaker B:And the blessing is if you only knew that you were also evolving and if you only were able to use this time to learn more about yourself and elevate yourself, evolution will be the most beautiful thing to ever happen to you.
Speaker A:100.
Speaker A:100.
Speaker A:And so, yeah, and then just to the point I was just trying to make is like, follow that anatomy and, and align your mind with that as well.
Speaker A:Like, how has your mind evolved this past month?
Speaker A:How's it evolving the last four to six weeks?
Speaker A:How is it so that the whole continuous.
Speaker A:Like you talked about, to communicate?
Speaker A:Well, you have to read, you have to listen.
Speaker A:Like, you know, that's what's going to continue to keep it all evolving.
Speaker A:Like, yeah, so there is, I have given up the imposter syndrome like years ago and now there's a movement that I always try to say with any woman, there's nothing imposter about you.
Speaker A:In fact, I try not to sit on panels where that's going to be a question.
Speaker A:I'm like, we can reframe it.
Speaker A:We could talk about crisis of confidence, which is a new frame of it.
Speaker A:But there's a story you told that even I think I would have not been able to, I would not have handled it the way you handled it.
Speaker A:And I want you to take us through.
Speaker A:Like I know you said you took them.
Speaker A: y I think dates back to April: Speaker A:It was a high, high level panel and you had put through the request and I think there was a little bit of a snafu that had you in the email, which I've been in, by the way, before.
Speaker A:You're in the CC of an email that's not intended to go and so can you.
Speaker A:You will tell the story way better than me.
Speaker A:And I, but I, I just, I marvel at, yeah, I just marvel at how you handled it.
Speaker A:And I think it had to happen.
Speaker B:Well, it had to happen.
Speaker B:And the story is I had applied to moderate a high level event, really excited about it, put my bio together, my, my real everything.
Speaker B:And I thought, you know what, I am powerful applied.
Speaker B:And the lady who had responded, she had been so gracious, you know, said, you know what, I'm just going to Put you in touch with, you know, our production team, you know, the people responsible.
Speaker B:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:Then there was who I, you know, discovered later on was the program director replies all not realizing that I, well, actually did he, well, who cares?
Speaker B:Realizing that I'm in coffee and basically said, we need bigger names than this.
Speaker B:We want to have people who are backed by big time networks.
Speaker B:This is too important to have an amateur hosting it.
Speaker B:So the lady who then sidebars me on WhatsApp is apologetic.
Speaker B:I'm so sorry.
Speaker B:Didn't realize, you know, I apologize.
Speaker B:To which I then said, it's not a problem, but if that opportunity is still open, I'll be more than happy.
Speaker B:You know, listen, in Kichi, it took me every ounce of my humanity as a human being, as a proud human being to say, it's fine, I'll look the other way.
Speaker B:Because all I wanted to do beyond prove a point was that opportunity.
Speaker B:And sometimes in life, even when somebody doesn't want you in a room, you know, you need them more than they need you.
Speaker B:Yeah, because you need the point.
Speaker B:And that's fine.
Speaker B:It doesn't mean you are any less of a person.
Speaker B:It doesn't mean you are nobody.
Speaker B:It just means that you just want a tool.
Speaker B:Not even a foot, a toe in the door.
Speaker B:And that's exactly what I did.
Speaker B:And I made sure to be the most prepared I have ever been.
Speaker B:I knew every single panelist middle name and the name of the of their dog.
Speaker B:I knew everything they had eaten in the morning and what they were about eat the following night.
Speaker B:I knew the topic through and through.
Speaker B:And by God's amazing grace, I brought everything to the table at the end of it.
Speaker B:Program director thinking that he's just going to say, you know, I guess it was well done or whatever it is now in now that I'm here, I have to be honest, it was he and it was him that I was hoping to speak to at the end of the night, even though the room was swarming with presidents and prime ministers and whatever it is and you know, people, secretaries will come to me and say, wow, who are you?
Speaker B:Congratulations.
Speaker B:It was not them that I wanted to speak to.
Speaker B:I want to speak to him.
Speaker B:And when I did get the chance to hold his warm, greasy, wet, I said, not bad for an amateur.
Speaker B:Ooh, saved your ass.
Speaker B:And I walked away.
Speaker B:Inkechi.
Speaker B:I was wearing a new pair of heels.
Speaker B:My feet were aching.
Speaker A:But that walk.
Speaker B:But the walk.
Speaker A:Sorry, I'm not sure that's very quick.
Speaker B:My hip, my toe, the Last toe, it was fresh meat, my knee.
Speaker B:But the way I walked and the way I swayed my hips.
Speaker B:I don't care what anybody said in my African print, by the way, which was attacked tighter than usual.
Speaker B:So that the bank.
Speaker B:Bank can be there, sister.
Speaker B:This is where the African elite comes out.
Speaker B:But you know, where you think the zip is going to open, but it won't because it's fastened.
Speaker B:But listen, on a more serious note, I needed that moment.
Speaker B:Yeah, I needed that moment not just for Anita, but for everybody who feels rejection is the end of it and for everyone who rejection kind of submerges you right down deep and where you think there is absolutely no way.
Speaker B:Listen, there's something called humble pride.
Speaker B:Humble pride is that moment when you know that, listen, this person thinks they have something on me.
Speaker B:But, God, I just want an opportunity to prove them wrong.
Speaker B:Because I know that beyond that opportunity of proving them wrong, they will never, ever speak to anyone like that anymore.
Speaker B:They may have spoken like that to me.
Speaker B:Yes, it's fine.
Speaker B:I have broad shoulders.
Speaker B:I have thick skin.
Speaker B:I can deal with the bullies of this world.
Speaker B:But it is people like this who crush the dreams of many people who.
Speaker B:Who have an opportunity, who are just searching for that opportunity to prove themselves.
Speaker B:And it wasn't for Anita.
Speaker B:It was for everybody who may look like, or not even look like me.
Speaker B:And to also say something about entrepreneurship.
Speaker B:Entrepreneurship is a very lonely, lonely space where often we run small businesses that people don't respect because we seem smaller than the biggest.
Speaker B:But we entrepreneurs, we are innovators.
Speaker B:We are the real change makers.
Speaker B:We are the ones that are changing the narrative.
Speaker B:And so, yes, indeed, when I show up, when I apply and it says only Erskine Global Communications versus a big network, you assume that I do not have the gravitas.
Speaker B:But I tell you what, I didn't become an entrepreneur because Grace didn't allow me to work with the big networks.
Speaker B:I became an entrepreneur because there is a story to be told, and sometimes that story is best told on your own terms.
Speaker B:So, anyway, this opportunity for me, it.
Speaker B:I felt pained.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker A:It's not.
Speaker B:You know, it's not.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, you know what?
Speaker B:I'm so bold.
Speaker B:No, I felt pained that you should use such language on anybody.
Speaker B:But I also felt relief that I got the opportunity to put him in his place, helping him understand.
Speaker B:Never underestimate someone seems to want to be in the room or never think that only you hold the key to something.
Speaker A:Hey.
Speaker A:Because, yeah, you know, there's a great I'm even gonna.
Speaker A:I'm gonna say an assignment that I've applied on my life that everything, absolutely everything is better simply because it passed by me.
Speaker A:And that really helps me level doesn't matter.
Speaker A:It's about everyone's a human being first and recognizing that everyone carries their own unique skills, talents and qualities that deserve to be in a room respected, valued, honored, looked at.
Speaker A:You know, and I love that you.
Speaker A:I feel like that story, unfortunately God had to use you or fortunately for us, use you to be able to share that story with others.
Speaker A:Because I know I'm.
Speaker A:I'm hosting a number of women tomorrow and that's powerful because rejection is never a no.
Speaker B:No and.
Speaker B:And no human being.
Speaker B:Human beings can give me permission, but they can never hold the key to my desk.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I.
Speaker A:You, you, you.
Speaker A:You just.
Speaker A:You messed me up, man.
Speaker A:I'm supposed to have you out here like so let's, let's quickly.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna go quickly go to these rapid thrivers.
Speaker A:When you think of someone who empowers you, who comes first to mind.
Speaker B:My mom as my mom has the fire, the dream, the ambition of a young Anita grew up in a completely different era.
Speaker B:But she holds me up and every single time I get on a plane or I'm just about to get on a plane to go somewhere I have never been, she will always send me the same prayer and say it is written in your destiny.
Speaker B:Best print.
Speaker B:Ah, Anita, go for it.
Speaker B:And that alone helps me break through wherever I want to break through.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:A daily activity that helps you with your thrive.
Speaker B:Prayer first thing in the morning, 4:30 at the very least, 5:30am outside in my garden.
Speaker B:Prayer to God to say Father God, just that I'm.
Speaker B:I'm awake and I can smell the.
Speaker B:The fresh air and I can hear the birds chirp.
Speaker B:Means you've given me another chance to.
Speaker A:That I woke up this morning, I'm winning.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker A:That's a win book that's helped you with your thrive.
Speaker B:Oh my goodness.
Speaker B:This one.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker B:Oh, I have read it three times.
Speaker A:Do tell.
Speaker A:Where is it?
Speaker A:Get it.
Speaker B:Ah.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh.
Speaker A:Where's mine?
Speaker A:Oh my gosh.
Speaker B:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Hold on.
Speaker B:Mel Robbins sister.
Speaker A:Hold on, hold on.
Speaker A:I have it.
Speaker A:I have it on audio.
Speaker A:I have it.
Speaker A:We're gonna have to send this to Mel.
Speaker B:Mel Robbins.
Speaker B:If you can see us.
Speaker A:We love you.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker B:We love you.
Speaker B:Thanks for failing forward.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That book is everything.
Speaker A:It's a whole ministry.
Speaker B:I've read it three times.
Speaker A:Can you imagine I haven't gotten to.
Speaker A:I'm.
Speaker A:I have the.
Speaker A:This one.
Speaker A:I use.
Speaker A:I use this book to highlight and all this.
Speaker A:But I'm reading it.
Speaker A:I have it on my digital so for quick reference and cut and paste to other people.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker A:You know, it's so interesting because it does say the let them theory.
Speaker A:But what I recognize the most important part of that is what she says is the.
Speaker B:Let me.
Speaker B:Let me.
Speaker B:It's for me.
Speaker A:That's the.
Speaker A:More like.
Speaker A:I know, I know it's let them, but do you know there's someone else that came up with that naming.
Speaker A:It's black woman.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker A:I have to.
Speaker A:I hold on.
Speaker A:I want to find it.
Speaker A:I'm going to find.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I'm going to.
Speaker A:I was.
Speaker A:And I'm hoping that Mel has kind of acknowledged them.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:I will send it to you.
Speaker A:I will.
Speaker A:I found out when I was telling to somebody and for their birthday, the woman gifted her with the actual women's like the original let them.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:So I'll send.
Speaker A:I'll send it to you.
Speaker A:I wish I.
Speaker A:I have to remember the name.
Speaker A:It's just escaping me.
Speaker A:Probably just because I'm rushing through this.
Speaker B:Okay, no worries.
Speaker A:What is an app on your phone that helps you with your thrive?
Speaker B:Gosh, I was going to say I have a tracker for my kids.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker B:I mean, is my calendar an app?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker B:It helps remind me because like I.
Speaker A:Can'T remember everything and it must be so exciting.
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker A:I totally have an exciting calendar year in Jesus.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker A:I think that's great.
Speaker A:And I think I actually really respect people that live by the calendar because I think, hey, I have to.
Speaker A:If it's not on the calendar, it doesn't get done.
Speaker A:I think that's.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:I have to.
Speaker B:I have to.
Speaker A:What is a.
Speaker A:What is one misconception that people have of you is they see you leading 700 global events and dressed in extraordinaire and nails done.
Speaker A:And what's the misconception?
Speaker B:That I'm full of myself.
Speaker B:Why did you say no?
Speaker A:No, because.
Speaker A:No, because I.
Speaker A:So I hate to say it because one of my biggest thing is if I'm too much, go and get less.
Speaker A:And I think there's many of us that are much that can.
Speaker B:I think for me, what has happened in the past past, which I don't do anymore, is I've tried to explain that I.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm Personable, I'm affable, I'm, I'm a nice person.
Speaker B:I don't do that anymore.
Speaker B:I think if you are blessed to be in my presence and you feel the things that you feel in a good way that I'm bringing to you, I think that's enough.
Speaker B:But it, it sometimes get, it's a bit sad when people don't give you an opportunity because they heard from someone who said to someone who said to someone that, oh, you know what, forget her, she's so full of herself.
Speaker B:But that full of myself really is the courage and the boldness and the preparation and the unapologetic ness that is due me.
Speaker B:I trained myself to be this person and it's due me.
Speaker B:And it's a shame that it's translated differently, but do I really care about it all the time?
Speaker B:Absolutely not.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, I love it.
Speaker A:And so where do we find more of you online?
Speaker B:Oh, where don't you?
Speaker B:Well, I'm spending a lot of time on LinkedIn now because as an entrepreneur, working on a lot of projects with female African entrepreneurs, I find that being able to tell stories, particularly stories of failure, encourages them to believe in themselves.
Speaker B:And I think that concept of business, this life called business, you know, who are we in it?
Speaker B:This is space called, you know, where we try to thrive, how do we do it, how do we speak up as leaders, etc.
Speaker B:So I think a lot of me on LinkedIn now very strategically and, and because I want to connect with the business, the business ecosystem on the and around the world that is ever evolving, is changing and helping people, particularly females, women, women, African, women entrepreneurs understand that you are completely enough.
Speaker B:Your product, your service, your commodity, your experience is, it's time for it right now.
Speaker B:So for LinkedIn, it is for me.
Speaker A:Right now enough without any other edit.
Speaker A:I love that there's going to be clips from this podcast that is going to be on that LinkedIn that is going to empower the masses.
Speaker A:Actually, I have a question for you.
Speaker A:As you start to think about future, like talking to these women on LinkedIn and we think about the future and really trying to get women to, to push back some of the, I think just the continued dialogues that we have about, you know, you know, being women, trying to navigate some predominantly non like male spaces but thinking about the future, what are do you think, where do you think, where do you think empowerment is going to look like?
Speaker A:Like what do you project?
Speaker B:I project empowerment is going to look like how women are able to practice their leadership voice in rooms they have to be heard and not just heard from a volume perspective, but heard and appreciated from a foundational understanding and owning their narrative, owning their journey, owning their product, owning their impact, owning their, you know, who they are.
Speaker B:This is what it looks like.
Speaker B:More and more women moving from the back of the room quietly and being at the front of the room loudly stated their planes, stating their names, stating their, their, their, you know, their essence and teaching people how to listen to them.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker B:Teaching people how to listen to them.
Speaker B:And like I always say, the leadership voice isn't.
Speaker B:It's not loud in volume, but it's loud in impact.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:It's loud and it's, it's, it's ability to demonstrate that I'm ready, I'm here now I know why I'm here.
Speaker B:And I'm not here to threaten you.
Speaker B:I'm here to collaborate with you.
Speaker B:I'm here to lead.
Speaker B:And I may be here to uplift you, you know, and that's where I see more and more women entrepreneurs, black or white or any other color or any other culture being.
Speaker B:Own your voice.
Speaker B:It's all you have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Before someone can ask you, what's this, this, this, this, this product, you should have been able to use your voice to describe it and state itself.
Speaker B:It's, it's, it's clean.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:So that's, that's, I hope that answers the question.
Speaker A:That's where big.
Speaker A:No, that's good.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Okay, so we'll find you on LinkedIn.
Speaker A:I'll put, I'll put links in the bio.
Speaker A:I'll also share your website.
Speaker A:And as a parting question, I'm gonna say it this way, finish the sentence.
Speaker A:I'm empowered in my skin, or I feel empowered in my skin when, when.
Speaker B:I'm honest with myself, when I'm feeling very low, when I'm feeling invisible.
Speaker B:And I tell myself that I'm here for a reason.
Speaker B:I'm here to do something big.
Speaker B:And I should never doubt myself that others can doubt me.
Speaker B:But doubting myself is an absolute.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:We went around the world.
Speaker A:We went around the world and we just landed the plane.
Speaker A:And I feel so incredibly blessed for this experience.
Speaker A:And God, I just, I thank you.
Speaker A:I thank you for the connection.
Speaker A:I thank you for how you're moving through this woman.
Speaker A:God, I just ask you that you continue to keep her on the rise.
Speaker A:God, that you elevate the spaces, that you increase her territory.
Speaker A:God, that you enlighten the platforms that you shine a light bright on the purpose and that she brings into every room, God.
Speaker A:And I just ask that you continue to guard her spirit.
Speaker A:Guard every gate, God.
Speaker A:Surround her with networks that will inspire and continue to propel her forward.
Speaker A:And, God, I thank you.
Speaker A:I thank you for your creation.
Speaker A:I thank you for this experience.
Speaker A:I thank you for the connection.
Speaker A:And I hold this really, really dear.
Speaker A:For life, in Jesus name I pray.
Speaker B:Amen.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:This is an honor.
Speaker B:This has been great.
Speaker B:God must be smiling.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:God.
Speaker A:Is God smiling?
Speaker A:God be me.
Speaker A:He' like, look at my pearlies.
Speaker B:When.
Speaker B:When you were looking at that ticket to Morocco and I was looking at my ticket to Morocco, God must have said.
Speaker A:And by the way, I'm assuming I'm gonna see a Jitex Global.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Absolutely.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And you know.
Speaker B:And you know, you know the wardrobe is coming to you, right?
Speaker B:No, no, no, sister.
Speaker B:You know, we're sending it to you.
Speaker B:You're trying it on.
Speaker B:We're fixing it before you show up on that stage.
Speaker A:Yeah, I love it.
Speaker A:I'm actually working on a piece of Mimi right now, so, yes.
Speaker A:Awesome.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:So to everyone that's listening, this is Sally, where I have to say, we're out.
Speaker B:Bye bye.
Speaker B:God bless you all.
Speaker A:Bye bye.
Speaker A:There you have it.
Speaker A:I trust that you are feeling more empowered in your skin.
Speaker A:As the late Dr.
Speaker A:Maya Angelou said, when you get, you give.
Speaker A:When you learn, you teach.
Speaker A:So it would mean so much for us at Empowered on My Skin, Inc.
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Speaker A:Power to my skin.
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