Nash Ferguson: Breaking barriers and trailblazing for Women in Trades
Nash Ferguson, a trailblazer in the Canadian construction industry, joins Nkechi Nwafor-Robinson in this enlightening conversation. From her pioneering role as the founder of EthelFox Construct Group to her dedication to fostering inclusivity through her nonprofit organization, A Woman's Work, Nash exemplifies the transformative power of empowerment.
Throughout the episode, she shares her journey of breaking barriers and creating opportunities for women in skilled trades, emphasizing the importance of resilience and the belief that one can start from anywhere.
This dialogue not only illuminates the challenges faced by women in construction but also inspires listeners to embrace their own paths of empowerment and self-discovery.
Join us as we delve into Nash's remarkable story and the impactful initiatives she champions.
Key Takeaways:
- Nash's journey into the construction industry began at a young age, inspired by her father's work as a tradesman, exemplifying the importance of early exposure to various career paths.
- The establishment of A Woman's Work, a nonprofit organization, aims to provide essential training and career support to women entering skilled trades, thereby promoting gender equality in a traditionally male-dominated field.
- The podcast underscores the necessity of patience and resilience in personal and professional growth, emphasizing that individuals often need to accept their current circumstances to move forward effectively.
- Nash advocates for the idea that empowerment comes from within, urging listeners to recognize and harness their unique strengths to navigate challenges in their careers.
- The conversation highlights the significant impact of mentorship and guidance, as seen in Nash's relationship with her mother, which shaped her values and approach to overcoming obstacles.
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Transcript
Great day, amazing human.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Welcome to Empowered at My Skin podcast where our mission is to help 1 billion people in this world think in more empowering ways.
Speaker A:Empowered humans empower humans.
Speaker A:So you are in the right place to become a lead domino for empowerment today.
Speaker A:My name is Nkechi Mwaho Robinson.
Speaker A:I'm not only your host, but I am a vibrant optimist obsessed to bring you empowering content with every single episode.
Speaker A:We will bring you weekly content alternating between longer episodes with featured guests and a shorter episode called Empowering Bites where I will be joined by my co host Gabby Memone.
Speaker A:So if you're ready, let the show begin.
Speaker A:Great day, amazing humans.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Welcome to the next episode of Empower to My Skin the podcast.
Speaker A:Our guest today is a trailblazer and for those of you who are YouTubers, you could see her right away.
Speaker A:But if you're listening, this is the trailblazer.
Speaker A:Recognized as a woman of distinction and change maker in the Canada construction industry, she's founder of Bethel Fox Construct Construct Group, a Toronto based full service construction and development company.
Speaker A:As one of Canada's few female owned construction firms, she's dedicated to breaking barriers for women in the industry.
Speaker A: In: Speaker A: In: Speaker A:Through her work with Ethel Fox Construct Group and A Woman's Work, she's committed to creating a more inclusive and equitable construction industry.
Speaker A:I know you're as excited as I am, so please join me in a huge, gigantic, massive podcast.
Speaker A:Welcome to the one and the only Natasha AKA Nash Ferguson.
Speaker A:Hi everyone.
Speaker B:How you doing?
Speaker A:Hello fellow top 100.
Speaker B:Hello.
Speaker B:Hello, hello, hello.
Speaker A:This has been a long time in the making.
Speaker A:Yes, it has, it has.
Speaker A:But Danae is supposed this today is the day that this was actually supposed to happen.
Speaker A:So I'm really excited about all that you've accumulated since we talked about getting into a podcast episode and what is going to be revealed today.
Speaker A:So first of all, if I just.
Speaker A:I'm going to give you your flowers at the top of the episode.
Speaker A:Like you are a.
Speaker A:You know, since I've, you know know since I've come to know more about you through Build a Dream.
Speaker A:The work that I've done with skill, being the the chair you are a marvel, and I'm in awe.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:I remember and I know that it hasn't been easy to get to where some of the stuff we're going to talk through today and.
Speaker A:But you create.
Speaker A:There's a blueprint there.
Speaker A:There's a blueprint of excellence.
Speaker A:There's a blueprint of.
Speaker A:Of, I'm going to say hustle.
Speaker A:Although hustle sometimes has a, you know, like exhaustion kind of.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:But I think your hustle is also very inspiring and just really, you know, trailblazing and breaking barriers.
Speaker A:So I'm really.
Speaker A:I'm excited about this episode.
Speaker A:So with all episodes, I start off with a very simple question to warm you up.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And today.
Speaker A:Today, ladies and gentlemen, we are recording that in advance of it publishing this Thursday.
Speaker A:But she.
Speaker A:She went to church, so I think she's ready for this question.
Speaker A:She's straight up.
Speaker A:She's straight up.
Speaker A:So what.
Speaker A:What has been your most empowering thought of the day so far?
Speaker B:That time is the master.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Time is the master.
Speaker B:Explain.
Speaker B:And so you are where you're Somebody.
Speaker A:Somebody scraping something.
Speaker B:That's my cat.
Speaker B:Okay, Halo, stop it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So time is the master.
Speaker B:You are where you are supposed to be, and you can always start from where you are.
Speaker B:And so, you know, it's kind of an old sort of saying that my mother and my grandmother used to pass on to me when I thought things were not going the way that I needed them to go or going as fast as they could go.
Speaker B:And so she would always say to me, natasha, time is the master.
Speaker B:And today, you know, while I was worshiping and just going through my Sunday, that kind of popped into my head because that's kind of where I am right now.
Speaker B:Just, you know, patience and resilience and just waiting on time, because that's the only thing that never changes.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The one thing you can't take back either.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:And it's interesting.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I actually like that.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:And I.
Speaker A:So what I like about what you just said, really, is about what you pulled out of.
Speaker A:Where you are right now is exactly where you need to be.
Speaker A:You know, and I think there's something very restorative and.
Speaker A:And that can contribute to a good restful spirit.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Especially in this day and age with all the uncertainty.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Like, we.
Speaker A:We're constantly thinking about all things that we actually don't have or don't feel we're prepared for.
Speaker A:Give credit to the fact that everything that we need in this moment is already present, you know?
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker B:And just really, you know, the present is called the present for a reason, because it is a present.
Speaker B:You know, I try to live in the present and in the now, especially with what I continue to do in my career and my journey and being in service of others.
Speaker B:And so that does take a certain level of patience and just understanding that sometimes the time, you don't master the time, time masters you.
Speaker B:So, and I think about, you know, I remember seeing you one day and we were at an event and it was a sort of a trade show event and I was not, I was not myself.
Speaker B:I felt run down and tired and, you know, I was going towards something that seemed at the time very unattainable.
Speaker B:And you did give me some words of wisd and it kind of went something like this.
Speaker B:It was kind of like, you can only do so much in this period of time and you really just have to let it all go.
Speaker B:Stop trying to control.
Speaker B:I remember these.
Speaker B:You did say this to me.
Speaker B:I don't know if you remember, but.
Speaker A:I remember the moment.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And, you know, not to try to control things that are already yours.
Speaker B:Whatever is yours is going to be yours.
Speaker B:It doesn't matter, you know, what you're going through at the time.
Speaker B:What's yours is yours and that can't be taken from you.
Speaker B:So I really did.
Speaker B:Thank you so much for that, friend.
Speaker A:Thank you for receiving that.
Speaker A:I remember that moment.
Speaker B:And essentially right after I started, you gave me that piece of advice.
Speaker B:I kind of just took a, you know, stock of everything and said, well, what have I achieved so far?
Speaker B:And the things that I've achieved, you know, it took time, it took patience.
Speaker B:And to be honest with you, I sometimes look back and think, oh my gosh, how did I do this?
Speaker B:And sometimes I also say, what did I get myself into?
Speaker B:When I take on big things and then when I accomplish it, I feel really great about it.
Speaker A:So I'm also glad that we're having.
Speaker A:This is actually how we're starting this, what conversation?
Speaker A:And because yesterday, transparently, I, I've been nursing, I've been, there's been an injury that I've been nursing for some time and I think, you know, I, while I'm in physio and I've done my MRIs, because I, I, any type of injury I get, I'm on it right away.
Speaker A:This one, however, I've never gone anything concrete, you know, in terms of what it is about.
Speaker A:And, and so I just, over the last, probably since April of last year, at times it's been pretty noticeable.
Speaker A:And other times.
Speaker A:Anyway, so long and short.
Speaker A:It started to hurt me this week when I, you know, and yesterday went down to.
Speaker A:Yeah, it hurt me a little bit more.
Speaker A:And then yesterday I went down to the gym to have a workout and just putting on my running shoes, as I was putting on it, on my left leg, my left foot, I heard a pop and this excruciating amount of pain.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:And instant tears.
Speaker A:And I remember.
Speaker A:I will be honest with you, I'm sharing this because I.
Speaker A:Because what we're just talking about, I don't always get it right myself.
Speaker A:And in that moment, in that moment, I forgot about the whole.
Speaker A:Everything you need right now is already.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:I was only thinking about how bad this could.
Speaker A:What if this is really bad?
Speaker A:This is my livelihood.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna be able to.
Speaker A:How am I gonna, you know, keep my mental state together?
Speaker B:You're like workout queens.
Speaker B:So for you to have that type of injury, it's kind of like, oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:But then I realized that in that moment, I was worshiping my working out more than God.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I had actually put it before and that worry around.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And so anyway, take care of it all.
Speaker A:So now a day later, like 24 hours later, way more settled, and I've been, I.
Speaker A:Information is golden.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I went to the hospital, I got some.
Speaker A:My husband took me to emerge, I got some X rays, got some anyway.
Speaker B:And, you know, there's a next step now.
Speaker A:And now I have.
Speaker A:Now the blessing is that I got fast tracked for a.
Speaker A:For a what's called orthopedic surgeon appointment, because I was on a waiting list.
Speaker A:And if all of that had to happen just for me to get fast tracked.
Speaker B:And so.
Speaker B:But what I want to pluck out from that is that in that moment of worry, in that moment of like, oh, my gosh, you forgot to think that it's not going to stay like this.
Speaker A:Oh, I know it's not perfect.
Speaker B:And that there is a next step.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:And that's how I always have to be thinking.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, my God, this happened.
Speaker B:And I literally don't worry anymore about things.
Speaker B:I was a big worrier.
Speaker B:Like, I would worry about things that, you know, it's like I have no control over, but there's always tomorrow and a lot.
Speaker B:And I had a mentor, and he used to say this to me, Natasha, a lot can happen in an hour.
Speaker B:A lot can happen in a day.
Speaker B:A lot can happen in a month.
Speaker B:A lot can happen in three Months.
Speaker B:In a year, you know, you can go from feeling this way to, to in 24 hours, something else happened that just propels you into that positivity or propels you into, you know, fixing that issue.
Speaker B:Or maybe you didn't fix that issue, but now something else that was a problem has been fixed.
Speaker B:So, you know, it goes back to time.
Speaker A:Yes, right.
Speaker A:No, you're right.
Speaker A:And, and that was funny when you just said that.
Speaker A:I also feel that you don't get, you don't have clarity and worry.
Speaker A:And so the minute I, the minute I settled my brain and started to listen to my husband, I decided that I was going to go to emergency.
Speaker A:I typically, like, I am like, oh, I don't want to go to, but I went to emergency.
Speaker B:You think your leg is going to stay like that forever?
Speaker B:Like, no, no.
Speaker B:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:But the enemy will put out some stuff, girl, to make you feel like the whole world is falling in on your head until you realize, like, but.
Speaker A:The menu calm the heck down.
Speaker A:I feel that everything starts to work out in your favor anyway, so thank you for that.
Speaker A:Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker A:Most empowering.
Speaker A:It really kick started this interview.
Speaker A:So there's always a, there's a backstory to always.
Speaker A:There's a backstory to greatness.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:And so you didn't just show up yesterday on the construction scene.
Speaker A:So can you, can you give us maybe, you know, a synopsis about how like, what even got you into construction?
Speaker A:I don't think I actually know that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So my dad is a tradesman and so I was introduced to the trades at a really young age and it kind of stuck with me.
Speaker B:I loved it.
Speaker B:But as you know, when you're growing up, especially at the time that we were growing up, there were only a few jobs that you could have.
Speaker B:You know, you're doing your OACs and you're this.
Speaker B:And everybody's either trying to be a doctor or a nurse or a teacher or anything like that.
Speaker B:So I was never pushed into it and instead I was pushed into communication.
Speaker B:So my first job getting out of high school was with the bank.
Speaker B:I did one year at Ryerson and I dropped out like six months in.
Speaker B:I was like, this is not for me.
Speaker B:I can't.
Speaker B:I was sitting there and I'm adhd, so it was like, I just want to do this also.
Speaker B:Being in an office was a huge thing for me.
Speaker B:But I stayed in office and stayed in corporate communications for about 15 years.
Speaker B:Worked with some of the Biggest ad agencies, worked in finance, you know, worked on some really big projects, did a lot of work abroad.
Speaker B:And I lived a really amazing and fruitful and interesting life and career.
Speaker B: fway through, I would say, in: Speaker B:And I hated what I was doing.
Speaker B:At one point I was just like, I'm not feeling fulfilled.
Speaker B:You know, the advertising world and the banking world, it is a different, you know, type of beast.
Speaker B:And feeling that tokenism and feeling like, yes, I'm making, you know, really, really good money, but I'm also tired.
Speaker B:I'm exhausted.
Speaker B:I don't like being in an office and having that FaceTime.
Speaker B:I like to call it FaceTiming, because really, you know, for a person like me, I would start in work and I would get everything done in the first part of the day.
Speaker B:And the rest of the day, it's just you're in meetings for two hours or an hour where we just.
Speaker B:You came from the corporate world, sometimes you're on these meetings and everybody's like talking about the same thing over and over again, and really nothing is getting done.
Speaker B:And you kind of, kind of say the same thing just in regards to.
Speaker B:And the financial da, da, da, da.
Speaker B:And then so that everybody buys that, you know.
Speaker B:But inside I was dying, literally, and feeling, you know, unappreciated, feeling like I couldn't spend time with my kid at the time.
Speaker B:And so I went to my stepfather and I said to him, you know, I'm really unhappy.
Speaker B:I really want to do this, this, and this.
Speaker B:And at that time, I met my second husband, who was a contractor, completely different than any person I'd ever met.
Speaker B:And he was a roofer and overall just trades guy.
Speaker B:And I was a serial entrepreneur because while I would be doing all of this stuff, I had this burning thing to do, you know, build stuff.
Speaker B:I was always building stuff and creating things, and people would be like, where are you getting this stuff in your mind?
Speaker B:I was like, I'm an entrepreneur, right?
Speaker B:So this is what it was, you know, And I met him and I was like, this is a really great business, roofing.
Speaker B:And he was like, what?
Speaker B:And I'm just like, yeah, this is great.
Speaker B:Like, we can make a lot of money with this.
Speaker B:And my whole concept, my whole thought process was like, name a building or a house that doesn't have a roof anywhere in the world.
Speaker B:And I'm like, that means, you know, that made perfect sense to me.
Speaker B:So we got married a year later, and we started this roofing company.
Speaker B:And that's Kind of how it all began.
Speaker B:I quit my job.
Speaker B:And the funny story is, when I quit my job, I went in there and I resigned.
Speaker B:And I had broken out in hives because I was always stressed out.
Speaker B:This job was crazy.
Speaker B:You know, I was making a ton of money.
Speaker B:But sure, they work you for that money.
Speaker B:Girl, let me tell you, you better not make over 100,000 at that time because you were working.
Speaker B:And so I started this thing.
Speaker B:I started to.
Speaker B:I decided to start moonlighting with ad agencies because roofing is seasonal, right?
Speaker B:So I would.
Speaker B:I would work the roofs, and, you know, I built the business.
Speaker B:It was called Sky Limitless Roofing, which I still have up until this day.
Speaker B:And in the winter, I would be poor, so I would go back with my tail between my legs to the ad agency, be like, you know, I need some work.
Speaker B:And I would get these.
Speaker B:These jobs for, like, six months.
Speaker B:God would always take care of me because as soon as I would have that six months done, I would be making 50 or 60 bucks an hour to do what I did best.
Speaker B:My season would start, and I would be up on a roof.
Speaker B:Yes, there were many times where, I don't know, you know, you go from a suit to being up on a roof and, you know, scraping.
Speaker B:The girl was crazy.
Speaker B:I remember I would be up north and we're shoveling, you know, three feet of snow off of a roof, and I'm thinking to myself, what the hell am I doing here?
Speaker B:This is crazy.
Speaker B:I was just wearing a pencil skirt and telling people about whatever and sitting in meetings, and now I'm on this roof.
Speaker B:So it was a very humbling experience.
Speaker B:Experience for me.
Speaker B:You know, two years later, my ex husband now would go and start at the.
Speaker B:The union.
Speaker B:And I just kept going with this business.
Speaker B:I loved it.
Speaker B:I loved understanding, you know, the gaps in the business.
Speaker B:And then, you know, three years later, I would open up another part of my business called Kuskai Sky Garden Landscaping.
Speaker B:And I made a lot of money landscaping because nobody ever knew that people spend this much money on planting flowers and their gardens and everything.
Speaker B:So because of my experience in branding and all that stuff, I was really able to build a very strong brand, and a brand where landscaping almost became this oasis that you would escape to.
Speaker B:And people love that.
Speaker B:They love the fact that, okay, we only have three months of winter.
Speaker B:We really want our backyard to look nice.
Speaker B:And I just made a ton of money.
Speaker B:And once that happened, sorry.
Speaker A:When did you develop the skill for landscaping?
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:So one day I'm sitting a friend of mine.
Speaker B:Her name is Debbie.
Speaker B:She would landscape during the summer because she was a teacher.
Speaker B:And so I would help her with the landscaping.
Speaker B:So when I opened up my roofing company for two years, I would get people asking me every time, and my ex husband would be like, yo, they keep asking if you do landscape.
Speaker B:And I'm like, really?
Speaker B:I'm like, I don't know nothing about landscaping.
Speaker B:One day I'm sitting with my mother and she's sitting across from me, and I'm sitting here and I'm like, you know what, mommy?
Speaker B:She's like, what?
Speaker B:She's like.
Speaker B:I said, I think I'm going to open up a landscaping company.
Speaker B:She just looked at me and she just rolled her eyes like, oh, my God, what is this girl doing?
Speaker B:And then two months later, I opened up the landscaping company.
Speaker B:I named it.
Speaker B:I put all of this stuff together.
Speaker B:I got books and started reading about trees and perennials and annuals and the difference.
Speaker B:And I just started learning everything.
Speaker B:I started learning about hardscape.
Speaker B:I learned how to install fake grass, right.
Speaker B:Well, we call it turf.
Speaker B:And the first two months, I got my first client.
Speaker B:Her name was Lucy Chin.
Speaker B:She was a beautiful looking Asian woman.
Speaker B:She said to me, I want you to come and do my backyard.
Speaker B:And next thing you know, she's pay me fifteen hundred dollars to do the backyard.
Speaker B:And this was.
Speaker B:I remember.
Speaker B:I remember talking to my ex and say he was helping me and he says, okay, how much did you get paid?
Speaker B:How much did you get paid?
Speaker B:And he's.
Speaker B:And I'm like, fourteen hundred dollars?
Speaker B:He goes, oh, is that with materials?
Speaker B:I go, no, that wasn't with materials.
Speaker B:He was like, what?
Speaker B:Because it was four hours of work.
Speaker B:So in four hours I made fourteen hundred dollars.
Speaker B:He was completely blown away.
Speaker B:And that's when everything started getting very serious for me anyways.
Speaker B:And you know that we ran that for about three years.
Speaker B:I would have $100,000 summers, you know, where I just.
Speaker B:And it was crazy.
Speaker B:And I love doing it.
Speaker B:I love being outside.
Speaker B:I love the effect that I would have on doing this.
Speaker B:There's something about getting your hands in the dirt and really being.
Speaker B:And then I started, because, you know, I'm an artist, I started designing, like whole things.
Speaker B:And at this time, I was really focused on these two businesses.
Speaker B:And something wonderful happened.
Speaker B:I had been trying to have a baby, my second child, and I was not able to do that.
Speaker B: And so in: Speaker B:And it was about two days before I was supposed to go to Japan.
Speaker B:I took my 16 year old to Japan.
Speaker B:I find out I'm pregnant, and it's crazy.
Speaker B:And I'm still gardening while I'm pregnant.
Speaker B:I come back from Japan.
Speaker B:I got a little bit of a belly on me now, and I'm doing the work, you know.
Speaker B:And I tell you what the breaking point was for me.
Speaker B:I had my daughter, C section.
Speaker B:It was crazy.
Speaker B:Imagine I'm 40 years old having this child.
Speaker B:It nearly broke me.
Speaker B:I don't know how people are having children at 45 and 46.
Speaker B:I was tired and I had her, and her name is Fox and she was just beautiful.
Speaker A:And your other daughter's name is Ethel?
Speaker B:No, my.
Speaker B:My mother, My late mother's name is Ethel.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I hear Ethel Fox now that you said Fox.
Speaker A:I'm like, okay, is your other daughter.
Speaker B:Yeah, so.
Speaker B:So no, my first daughter's name is London.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:And so I had my whole family doing gardening.
Speaker B:And my mom would be there, God bless her soul.
Speaker B:And I knew what I wanted to do because after I had had Fox, it was two months later, I was back on site after a C section.
Speaker B:And I knew that that changed me.
Speaker B:I said, this is what I want to do.
Speaker B:And during this time, I was learning carpentry, and I was.
Speaker B:Anything I could get my hands on, I was learning these traits.
Speaker B: And so in: Speaker B:And at the time, I was.
Speaker B:It was called sky contracting.
Speaker B: But in: Speaker B: And by: Speaker B:And so again, you know, a complete metamorphosis.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I've had this baby.
Speaker B:Now I'm fully engrossed into this business.
Speaker B:You know, I'm no longer moonlighting with the ADHD because I don't need to anymore.
Speaker B:And I've got this young baby.
Speaker B:I've also got this marriage that's kind of like breaking apart.
Speaker B: these things are happening in: Speaker B:My mom was my best friend.
Speaker B:And so, you know, it was life changing for me and I wanted to take this business seriously.
Speaker B:So I started to say, you know what, I need to get more experience.
Speaker B:And it can't just be experience within my business.
Speaker B:And so I started to apply for jobs.
Speaker B:At this time now, I've got five trades under my belt.
Speaker B:I'm very proficient at these trades and I'm going for interviews and it was really bad.
Speaker B:I really started to see the discrimination.
Speaker B:I would go to interviews, you might.
Speaker A:Interviews, trying to get work in your trade.
Speaker B:Yeah, like, you know, I wanted to be a project manager, construction manager, so on site and so I would put all of my credentials on.
Speaker B:I would have these interviews on the phone and they were like, oh my God, you really know how to do all this stuff.
Speaker B:And I'm like, absolutely.
Speaker B:I would show them my work and show me working and doing it.
Speaker B:And I would get there and a couple of times I would get there and they would be shocked.
Speaker B:And sometimes I would just wear my afro on purpose because I would come in, I'd be like, hey, you know, and you could see their faces were like, I like to call it racist face.
Speaker B:Like where they just look like, you're not gonna get this job today, girl.
Speaker B:And I'd be like, okay, so the last straw.
Speaker B:I like to call it the last straw.
Speaker B:It was winter time.
Speaker B:My mom was, you know, she was getting sicker and I went and took an Uber and to this interview to a very big company and I was very excited because I had had an amazing conversation with the man.
Speaker B:And I walked in there and he saw me and the face didn't look good.
Speaker B:But I still went through the interview.
Speaker B:And he actually ended up getting mid interview and leaving the interview and sending in this woman, she was older, who was the secretary to finish the interview.
Speaker B:And I was pissed.
Speaker B:And it's actually a very big, big, big roofing company.
Speaker B:I'm not going to name them here, but I went home very disillusioned.
Speaker B:I was very upset.
Speaker A:Did they have a union mindset?
Speaker A:Like is it, was it a union?
Speaker B:No, they weren't union.
Speaker B:They were not.
Speaker B:But it was almost like the idea of me, a woman and a black woman managing, you know, old Portuguese or town guys, it was just like, no, they're not going to listen to you.
Speaker B:And I found out that it was a racism thing through making contact and looking at their glass door stuff and seeing all the comments.
Speaker B:And I was very upset.
Speaker B:And my mom said to me, you know, that's what they used to do when I came from Jamaica.
Speaker B:I would put on my best white voice and then get down to the interview.
Speaker B:They would see I was there and then they wouldn't give me the job.
Speaker B:So I was just like, no, this is not, this is not it.
Speaker B:And I called a very good friend of mine and I was talking to her, her Name is Chandra.
Speaker B:And she said to me, natasha, why do you.
Speaker B:Why don't you just do this on your own?
Speaker B:Why don't you just open up your own company, like your own thing?
Speaker B:And I said, well, I am doing that.
Speaker B:She goes, no, but I mean, like, branded.
Speaker B:Do what you do best and really go hard with it.
Speaker B:And I said, you know what?
Speaker B:You're right.
Speaker B:I'm gonna do that.
Speaker B: And so that was: Speaker B:My mom was on her last legs.
Speaker B:I decided to change the company name, and I changed it to Ethel Fox in honoring.
Speaker B:Honoring of my mother.
Speaker B:And we literally.
Speaker B:I would literally come home and sit on her deathbed with her, and she would.
Speaker B:I would design logos and different things, and I would say, mommy, what are you think about this?
Speaker B:And she would.
Speaker B:She chose the one that I liked.
Speaker B:And so it was.
Speaker B:It was.
Speaker B:It was very, very therapeutic for me.
Speaker B:Sings with my mother in her last days.
Speaker B:But, you know, a woman's work also was conceived from this.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so another straw that broke the camel's back was.
Speaker B:Couldn't find anything for myself to wear.
Speaker B:And I had gone into.
Speaker B:I can say them now because we're partners, Mark's Work Warehouse.
Speaker B:And there was nothing in there.
Speaker B:I complained bitterly.
Speaker B:I called my mother.
Speaker B:I called the 1-800-number.
Speaker B:They were sick of hearing me, so they hung up after 45 minutes of me hammering them.
Speaker B:And I was picking up something from my mom.
Speaker B:She liked sweet stuff.
Speaker B:It's almost like what?
Speaker B:Almost like, you know, killed her.
Speaker B:But she's like, I'm dying.
Speaker B:I want what I want.
Speaker B:So I was talking to my mom, and I said to her, you know, I'm so angry.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:And I'm tired of this.
Speaker B:And I feel like, you know, I.
Speaker B:In.
Speaker B:In the industry I was in before, it was because of my skin color, and now it's because I have a vagina.
Speaker B:And I'm not standing for this, and I'm not doing this.
Speaker B:And I went home, and she was just like, tasha, come here.
Speaker B:I said, yes, Mom.
Speaker B:She said, you're so upset.
Speaker B:Why?
Speaker B:And I.
Speaker B:I said this to her, and she said, well, Tasha, just do something about it.
Speaker B:Then my mom had this way of saying the most simplest thing that would just, like, resonate.
Speaker B:And I would look at her, and I'd be like, this, okay, fine.
Speaker B:I'm doing that.
Speaker B:And I left the room and went to bed.
Speaker B:On that morning, I got up that morning, I got up, and something popped into my head.
Speaker B:I like to call it.
Speaker B:I get, you know, the visions or the.
Speaker B:The voice I like to call him.
Speaker B:I like call him God.
Speaker B:And said, this woman's work.
Speaker B:And I woke up and I said, that is what I'm going to do, this woman's work.
Speaker B:And I went in there and I said, mommy, what do you think about this organization?
Speaker B:I won't call it this woman's work.
Speaker B:And she said, you know what you should call it Our woman's work.
Speaker B:Not a lot of people know about Kate Bush.
Speaker B:Remember that song?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker B:That Maxwell did.
Speaker B:Everybody thinks Maxwell did, but it wasn't Kate Bush.
Speaker B:And she said, and you know what?
Speaker B:You need to put E instead of an A.
Speaker B:I said, what do you mean, like a women's?
Speaker B:She said, yes, because it's all the women.
Speaker B:And that was the beginning of the.
Speaker A:Journey of all women's work.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:And I started to.
Speaker B:My mom would pass away about a month later, and what can I say?
Speaker B:Things just started happening.
Speaker B:You know, opportunities started popping up and I would meet many production companies.
Speaker B:I went and got a publicist, and by.
Speaker B:I didn't know that I was the only woman doing this, apparently.
Speaker B:And so they would say, you know, Natasha, you're like the Oprah of construction.
Speaker B:And you're like this and that.
Speaker B:And so one day I was talking to a really good friend of mine, his name's Huggy, and he said to me, you know what?
Speaker B:You're like the first lady of construction.
Speaker A:Oh, nice.
Speaker A:And that's how you got that moniker.
Speaker B:We're into it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And so, you know, what a journey, you know, like, I really love that that became a purpose.
Speaker B:It was purpose driven for me.
Speaker B:And not only.
Speaker B:It's not like I forgot about my companies, but you know what?
Speaker B:In catchy, when you find your purpose and you find something that really fills you up and it allows you to be in service of God and in.
Speaker A:Service of others, it's fire.
Speaker A:Nothing can compare to it.
Speaker B:Nothing can compare to it.
Speaker B:And so everything that I have done since then has really tied things together for me.
Speaker B:And everything just seems to.
Speaker B:The dots connect.
Speaker B:And where are we today?
Speaker B:We are.
Speaker A:We're here.
Speaker A:So it's interesting because you were probably one of the most easiest people to interview, because I think you just did the whole interview.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You talked to us.
Speaker A:If I really, you know, follow all the things that we just unlocked is really kind of just.
Speaker A:You don't have to have it all figured out, you know, And I think that your vision can continue to unlock as you.
Speaker A:As you go and.
Speaker A:And then also not necessarily once you have that vision, figuring out how you're going to get there and then just kind of the how is none your business.
Speaker A:Often they say and this kind of, you know, what is it that I need to do now?
Speaker A:And I think your mom really served as a, as a great guide and I think that that's such a beautiful tribute that you've, that you've took us through.
Speaker A:And so what I'm, what I'm going to ask for you or ask of you right now actually because I need to take you into rapid thrivers because like I said.
Speaker A:Okay, you just did the entire.
Speaker A:Because I was going to ask you about first that you face and I know there's more but, but it's interesting because on Empowered My Skin, one of the things I'm, I'm looking to like create is a leadership academy.
Speaker A:And, and the, the, the what I want that academy to really be for is for those people that like we often talk about being the only.
Speaker A:So you are the only in your industry.
Speaker A:And I think there's power in being the only.
Speaker A:I think there's also, there's a, there's a, there's lessons learned of being in the only.
Speaker A:That means that you're in rooms where you know, these are the rooms that are not like widely so things are happening in these rooms that most people in the world do not get the chance or the privilege to be able to understand or even know.
Speaker A:And they don't teach you this stuff in school.
Speaker A:So you know, is you start to like if you can just, you know, think about what are one or two skills that you think.
Speaker A:I'm going to call them your like blueprint skills that you can share with the listeners irrespective of whatever industry they want to get into.
Speaker A:But something about going down the path of the less traveled.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Because essentially that's what you did.
Speaker A:You didn't see people that look like you.
Speaker A:Not once in your and not once in, in the recount did you actually say that you needed to see someone that looked like you to be able to achieve what you've achieved.
Speaker A:You never once said that.
Speaker A:I noticed and oftentimes as I meet other the onlys they don't often say that they needed that.
Speaker A:You know, they have become that which is other people looking up to them.
Speaker A:So Nash, my question for you is what can you share as one or two blueprint musts quality skills, skills that have been instrumental to, to where you are on today?
Speaker B:Man, I'm going to say this one word and hopefully everybody, all of you get What I'm saying, But pioneering.
Speaker A:First pimples.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, because, you know, to be a pioneer and to have that pioneering spirit, you know, it's just something special.
Speaker B:And anybody can have it, anybody can achieve it and make that a part of who they are.
Speaker B:But to be a pioneer, this is my second thing.
Speaker B:You got to be brave.
Speaker B:You got to be brave.
Speaker B:I think one of the things that I've been blessed with, and thank God I have, is that gumption.
Speaker B:You know, I haven't been the type of person that you could say and say, natasha, you can't do that.
Speaker B:You better not tell me that because I am then going to do it.
Speaker B:And so there's the pioneering spirit.
Speaker B:And then in order to have that, you got to be brave.
Speaker B:And, you know, I think that too many times, especially women, it could be men or women, but specifically focusing on women, is that we don't think that we can be the first to do it.
Speaker B:Especially in this type of industry.
Speaker B:We are raised to say, you know, we're mothers.
Speaker B:You know, we're not supposed to be handling a big saw.
Speaker B:You know, we're nurses, we're whatever it is that people like to put us in these boxes.
Speaker B:And what I like to say is that, you know, you have to pioneer yourself out of that box.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, that's what's worked for me.
Speaker B:That's why I'm here.
Speaker B:Because I really, I really think that being brave, it's not easy.
Speaker B:But you, you have to, you have to sometimes be uncomfortable to reach greatness.
Speaker A:You sometimes have to be uncomfortable to reach greatness.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I'm going to take you through some rapid thrivers.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And so when you think of someone who empower, well, inspires you, who comes first to mind.
Speaker B:Dead or alive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, my mom.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I was like, okay.
Speaker A:I'm so sure she's gonna say.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I know I always say her because like so much of what who I am is.
Speaker A:So help me out.
Speaker A:Is she, Is she Ethel Fox?
Speaker B:She is Ethel.
Speaker A:She's Ethel.
Speaker A:And then so you chose your mom and your daughter to name your business.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Okay actually means noble.
Speaker A:Noble.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:I love.
Speaker A:And I love how your mom has really guided you to where you were on today.
Speaker A:And I think it's just here.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:She's probably here right now being like, oh, my God, her hair looks so good.
Speaker B:Yeah, she, she was like a force.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And you Know, the lesson that you said to her is.
Speaker A:And I think it's.
Speaker A:I think it.
Speaker A:If it's one thing that we can always put in front of ourselves is as we start to complaining, it's like just stopping and saying, well, why don't you do something about it?
Speaker A:You know?
Speaker A:And that's, I think, where the pioneering play comes in.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:My mom never worried.
Speaker B:That was like the one thing she would always say.
Speaker B:You know what, Natasha?
Speaker B:You know what your problem is?
Speaker B:This is what she said to me literally four days before she passed.
Speaker B:She goes, you worry too much.
Speaker B:She goes, I know you're gonna roll your eyes, but you worry too much.
Speaker B:You have to practice, not worry.
Speaker B:So that's what I started doing.
Speaker B:I really start.
Speaker B:Started stopping worrying.
Speaker A:Girl, it's not even a joke.
Speaker B:It is a practice.
Speaker A:It is a practice.
Speaker A:Practice.
Speaker A:It is a part.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:And I will tell you just how we started this interview, when I shared kind of that the inspiration I had from what you were sharing is if I hadn't practiced, I don't know that I would have gone to the point I got to yesterday so quickly.
Speaker A:So I think it's not that it doesn't happen, it's that you step out of the worry quickly and.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:It's when it's exactly.
Speaker B:Because you know what?
Speaker B:Five years ago, I could tell you I could probably worry way more and it would take longer me to get out of the worry.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:But now it's like, it's quick.
Speaker B:Two seconds and it's quick.
Speaker A:Your body actually feels like.
Speaker A:Yeah, wait, I'm wearing change.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes, I feel it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So what is a daily activity that helps you with your thrive or staying empowered?
Speaker B:Prayer.
Speaker B:If I get up in the morning, I used to.
Speaker B:When I used to.
Speaker B:If you look at interviews I've done in the past, they always say, like, you know, what do you.
Speaker B:So I wake up with a fresh cup of anxiety every morning.
Speaker B:Like, I would always say that.
Speaker B:And now when I wake up, I have no more anxiety because when I wake up, if I can't get back to sleep, rather than thinking about all of the things that I haven't done or I've done, I pray.
Speaker B:And that really brings me center.
Speaker B:I also am into the gym and yoga.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I need that.
Speaker B:I'm not hardcore like you, but you.
Speaker A:Know what I'm saying, You don't need to be.
Speaker A:You need to be what you need to be what you needed to be.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I'm trying to get myself back to those workouts too.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I know what people are looking at.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, my God.
Speaker B:I'm looking at myself.
Speaker A:I was looking at myself climbing walls.
Speaker B:The other day, and I was like, okay, okay.
Speaker B:I was like, where's that girl?
Speaker B:I was like, where's that girl?
Speaker A:I need that girl back.
Speaker A:I need that girl back.
Speaker A:Anyway, what is a book that's helped you with your thrive?
Speaker B:There's a book called Upper Limiting.
Speaker B:I really love that book because I used to do that a lot, and I think all of us do that, where we're like, are you looking it up right now?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it basically talks about how when people get to a certain stage or level in their life, they will find some way to sabotage themselves or what we like to call upper limiting.
Speaker B:And so this book is a very good book because it also has exercises to stop you from doing that, because you can literally block your blessings from upper limiting yourself.
Speaker A:Upper limiting, for sure.
Speaker A:It's the book.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I'm gonna have to get you the exact name.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker A:It's not the big leap.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:No, I'm gonna.
Speaker B:I'm gonna.
Speaker B:I'm gonna send you the copy of the book and then.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So to all the readers, we'll make sure that we have the.
Speaker A:We have the book.
Speaker A:And, yes, we will put.
Speaker B:I'll put the book.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I always put.
Speaker A:I always put the book.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:What is it?
Speaker A:Okay, go on.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So I really love that book.
Speaker B:And I love Atomic Habits, too.
Speaker A:Oh, yes.
Speaker A:That one I love.
Speaker B:That's a very good book.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:What is a.
Speaker A:An app that helps you stay empowered.
Speaker B:An app.
Speaker A:An app on your phone.
Speaker B:Yoga.
Speaker B:Face Yoga.
Speaker B:Face Massage.
Speaker A:Yoga.
Speaker A:Face Massage.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Because, you know, I'm getting to that age, and it's like, sometimes I feel like yoga.
Speaker A:Face Massage is an actual app, so it's.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's an app you have.
Speaker B:So it's called.
Speaker B:I'm going to tell you what it is right now.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:I never remember anything.
Speaker A:I just.
Speaker B:I just downloaded.
Speaker B:It's called Face Yoga.
Speaker A:Face Yoga.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I'm gonna have to check this out.
Speaker A:Face Yoga.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:So I do that.
Speaker B:I do this, and I think.
Speaker B:And it really just makes me feel like I'm doing something.
Speaker A:I love this.
Speaker A:I love this.
Speaker B:That definitely.
Speaker B:I know I have weird things that empower me.
Speaker B:It's so crazy.
Speaker B:But, like, yeah, that's it.
Speaker B:Because I'm not really a phone, and, like, I don't like tablets and being.
Speaker A:You know, tethered to digital.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And so my last one is as people Ms.
Speaker A:First lady of Construction and all the awards you, you, you've won and just your exuberant self that we see and personalities that you share with.
Speaker A:With the world.
Speaker A:What is one misconception that people have of you or that you think that they have a view?
Speaker B:I think they think that I'm an extrovert.
Speaker B:I'm not an extrovert.
Speaker B:I'm not.
Speaker B:I have the ability to walk into certain environments and form myself to whatever is going on.
Speaker B:I can be the life of the party.
Speaker B:But sometimes I would.
Speaker B:Most of the time I would much rather be sitting and watching Netflix.
Speaker A:So can I, can I submit something to you?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:For consideration.
Speaker A:I often, I'm.
Speaker A:I often try to discourage myself and others to like put these labels like, you know, like introvert, extrovert or.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:The latest one that I'm trying to really just debunk is the imposter syndrome and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh my gosh, I've been hearing so much about that.
Speaker A:You're not going to hear about it soon because I am literally debunking that from the world.
Speaker A:But anyway, it's out.
Speaker A:So the truth is maybe you are.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:It's more about knowing who you are in certain circumstances.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So in circumstances where you are out in the public and you need to be out in the eye, there is a side of you that comes alive because you're able to really carry that room and, and the purpose of why you're there.
Speaker B:Personality.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And then when you are alone, you.
Speaker A:You also value the quiet and my solitude.
Speaker A:Solitude.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So I do.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:You know, so.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:But, but just.
Speaker B:I get that.
Speaker B:That, that is exactly correct.
Speaker B:But I just, I, I'm talking about how I feel like.
Speaker A:Yeah, you think, people think you're like that all.
Speaker A:You're all, you're that all the time.
Speaker B:I need to stay home.
Speaker B:Like I just went to like 5 galas, I just spoke at this place and now I'm there.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:And chopping wood and building a house.
Speaker A:Like, I mean, I'm exhausted.
Speaker B:I'm exhausted.
Speaker B:And I have a 7 year old who's like, I gotta take the dance class and do like, look at this.
Speaker B:We were, I mean, we pretty much have the same type of schedule.
Speaker B:I would think so.
Speaker A:Because.
Speaker B:And this is why for all of you don't know, it took us a little while to get to this point because we are women of many Hats.
Speaker B:We wear many hats, you know, and we enjoy that.
Speaker B:We enjoy that.
Speaker A:I enjoy you.
Speaker A:So where do we find more of you online?
Speaker B:You can go to Instagram.
Speaker B:First lady of construction.
Speaker B:You can check out some things that I'm doing now.
Speaker B:You know, we just finished a massive event called her Construct Innovation Gala.
Speaker B:It was amazing.
Speaker B:We're going to be doing that next year.
Speaker B:We are going to be hosting a few, few women related events in the coming spring and summer.
Speaker B:I'm super excited about that.
Speaker B:And my classes are starting again.
Speaker B:So for those of you who are interested in learning construction, you know, I have to say it's been amazing.
Speaker B:We have 900 women enrolled right now in the program and, you know, we need all the support we can get.
Speaker B:So volunteer.
Speaker B:If you want to know more about the industry, come and take one of our classes.
Speaker B:It's free.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker B:And we want to empower women.
Speaker B:We want to empower people, the people, the newcomers that are new to our country.
Speaker B:We know all of the things that are going on right now in our country, in our province.
Speaker B:And I'm here to, you know, help push things along and make Canada great again.
Speaker B:And build Canada the great.
Speaker A:Continue to make Canada great.
Speaker A:Continue to make Canada great.
Speaker A:I know ain't nobody coming to make us a 51st state.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker A:That is a hard no.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:All right, so you know what?
Speaker B:We all have to work together.
Speaker B:And that's what I'm here to do.
Speaker A:Common unity.
Speaker B:And if anybody needs any renovations or stuff like that, check out my site, ethelfoxconstruct.com and you can go and find out more about a woman's work.
Speaker A:Aww.org.com so I'm putting my hand up.
Speaker A:So I'm going to check it out.
Speaker A:Basement construct.
Speaker A:So we'll talk and maybe if you still do landscaping, we could talk about backyard.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So as a parting question, this podcast is called Empowered in My Skin and would love to know what that means.
Speaker A:Means to you.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker B:You know, probably everybody said something cliche to this, but empowered.
Speaker A:Great answers.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Okay, well, let me just.
Speaker B:Well, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker B:So what that, what that means to me is, you know, living in your truth and being truthful with yourself.
Speaker B:And I feel like when you are living in your truth and you're honest with yourself, you'll feel more empowered in your skin.
Speaker B:And it's easier to live in your skin.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Isn't it?
Speaker A:Than somebody else's.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Many of us are out of our skin.
Speaker B:You know what I'M saying we need to get.
Speaker A:I hear yeah.
Speaker A:Back into their skin.
Speaker A:Girlfriend, I gave you your flowers.
Speaker A:I, you know, they.
Speaker A:I raise another bouquet to you.
Speaker A:You are incredible and you're awesome and.
Speaker A:And I just.
Speaker A:Keep rising, Queen.
Speaker A:Keep rising.
Speaker B:Thank you so much.
Speaker B:And keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker B:Keep empowering.
Speaker B:You've empowered me and influenced me.
Speaker B:So thank you for that.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker B:I look forward to more.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker B:More, please.
Speaker A:Yes, more coming.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:And to everyone that's listening, sadly, this is where I have to say we're out.
Speaker B:Bye.
Speaker A:Bye.
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Speaker A:I trust that you are feeling more empowered in your skin.
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Speaker A:Maya Angelou said, when you get, you give.
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