The Alpha Approach: How to Thrive Over 40 with Funk Roberts
Nkechi sit down for an enlightening conversation with Funk Roberts, a fitness expert dedicated to helping men over 40 transform their health and well-being.
Funk emphasizes the critical importance of maintaining physical and mental health as men age, addressing common challenges such as declining testosterone levels, increased belly fat, and the need for mobility and recovery.
He shares personal experiences that shaped his journey and highlights the necessity of vulnerability in men's lives, encouraging listeners to seek support and open up about their struggles. The episode dives deep into the cultural expectations of masculinity and how they can hinder men from prioritizing their health.
Join Nkechi and Funk as they discuss actionable steps to empower men to reclaim their health and inspire those around them.
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Transcript
Great day, amazing human.
Ingke Chi:Welcome to the Empowered in My Skin podcast where our mission is to help 1 billion people in this world think in more empowering ways.
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Ingke Chi:With each episode we will be bringing you content alternating between longer episodes with featured guests and shorter episodes called Empowering Bites where I'll be joined by my co host Gabby Mamone.
Ingke Chi:So if you're ready, let the show begin.
Ingke Chi:Yes, great day, amazing humans and yes, YouTubers.
Ingke Chi:Don't tell, don't tell the audio people who I have here with me, but I actually tell anyone that's listening and watching.
Ingke Chi:I first want to start off by saying I'm going to claim this human as a friend because I, I realize I've known you, I've known him for a really, really, really long time and so really, really happy to sit down in like an interview to pick his brain around men's health.
Ingke Chi:So as you know, on the Empowered My Skin podcast for the last three years, this is the third time we run a series during the month of November all around men's health and the importance of it.
Ingke Chi:And, and so yes, so I asked this amazing human if you would join me in conversation because he is everything expert about this and not I love it.
Ingke Chi:My coach always says don't just look it like don't just look at be it.
Ingke Chi:And, and so he doesn't just look fit, he is actually extremely fit.
Ingke Chi:Yes, fit in mind and body and soul and everything.
Ingke Chi:So he's the creator of multiple ventures including a fitness business business, a supplements brand and a thriving community called the Over 40 Alpha Brotherhood with over 18,000 members.
Ingke Chi:All of his accomplishments in fitness have actually won numerous awards, he's a best selling author and he has a real big passion for and dedication for helping men over 40, 50 and 60 improve their physical and, and mental well being.
Ingke Chi:And I truly do believe like when you set out on a mission to do something that is bigger and greater than yourself, you don't have to worry about how you're going to do it.
Ingke Chi:The how actually just organically comes to you.
Ingke Chi:And that's what I think I've observed of you over the years, is how so freely and willingly you just give to the community at large.
Ingke Chi:I'd also say that he doesn't just stop at fitness.
Ingke Chi:Very passionate about community, running Programs that promote workouts and nutrition guidance and mindset coaching, along with fostering strong connections among members.
Ingke Chi:And I think you actually, I know you just told me in our B roll, I'm about to announce them.
Funk Roberts:But hold on.
Ingke Chi:In our B roll, you said don't speak yet.
Ingke Chi:But you said you.
Ingke Chi:I think you have four best selling.
Ingke Chi:Your four right on Amazon, bestselling author.
Ingke Chi:Yes, four.
Ingke Chi:And he has major TV network appearances and he's a speaker at global fitness events.
Ingke Chi:And so now you're probably wondering, like, who is this Cuban?
Ingke Chi:And so please join me in an amazing podcast.
Ingke Chi:Welcome for the only fun Roberts that exists in the world.
Funk Roberts:Thank you so much.
Funk Roberts:That was an incredible intro.
Funk Roberts:I want to thank you so much for inviting me here.
Funk Roberts:Just want to mention I am under the weather, so if you hear my voice or what have you, you know, I look a little, you know, dead.
Funk Roberts:That's okay.
Funk Roberts:But I want.
Ingke Chi:You look great.
Ingke Chi:You look great.
Ingke Chi:And you're.
Ingke Chi:And your voice is as husky as ever.
Ingke Chi:And to be quite honest, I have a husky voice.
Ingke Chi:Um, so.
Ingke Chi:But mine's not.
Ingke Chi:I don't.
Ingke Chi:I think I was just trying to keep up with 3,000 high school girls on.
Ingke Chi:On Tuesday.
Ingke Chi:They beat me out.
Ingke Chi:So.
Ingke Chi:Okay, as always on this podcast, my first, my first question is always, what has been your most empowering thought of the day you've had so far?
Funk Roberts:Empowering thought of the day, Wow.
Funk Roberts:I gotta get my tribe secrets course complete.
Funk Roberts:That's the most empowering thought of the day that I had.
Ingke Chi:Your.
Ingke Chi:Your tribe.
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:So I do.
Funk Roberts:I have a business that I help other business owners create their own tribe, their own community.
Funk Roberts:So we're literally creating that right now.
Funk Roberts:Use the same method that I use for the over 40 Alpha brotherhood.
Funk Roberts:And so I'm in that midst of a new venture that I'm really excited about.
Ingke Chi:Okay.
Ingke Chi:So anyway, we're gonna have some C roll.
Ingke Chi:Okay.
Ingke Chi:But yes, some C roll as soon as we're finished because that just totally like, ding, ding to me.
Ingke Chi:So.
Ingke Chi:So let's just talk about it.
Ingke Chi:You are over 40.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, 55.
Funk Roberts:You're 45.
Ingke Chi:55.
Funk Roberts:55.
Funk Roberts:Damn.
Ingke Chi:15 years over 40.
Ingke Chi:And before I get into like your expert mindset, I just also wanted to say that you are not, you're not exempt from, you know, what you actually help other men with, right?
Ingke Chi:Is actually your body's changing over time.
Ingke Chi:So at the age of 55, how are you doing physically, mentally, emotionally?
Ingke Chi:How, like, what are you finding is in the presence of who you are today?
Ingke Chi:And how do you Work through it.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, you know, I've been pretty much following my own advice.
Funk Roberts:Nutrition, workouts, recovery, like that's been an added bonus here for me, like recovery, mobility, yoga, a lot of mental recovery, supplementation, the whole kind of pillars of health.
Funk Roberts:And you know, I feel great, I feel awesome.
Funk Roberts:I mean, yes, I'm battling some injuries, knees, back, but the mobility is the, is the, is the new kind of focus.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Really and truly leaning into that more than the workouts.
Funk Roberts:But at 55, I feel amazing.
Funk Roberts:Literally feel amazing.
Funk Roberts:Now it wasn't always like that, but I do feel amazing at 55.
Ingke Chi:And when you say mobility, because I think ladies that are listening to this, do, please.
Ingke Chi:I'm also listening for alignment and as well as what I'm feeling at 52.
Ingke Chi:But when you say mobility, that one spoke out to me because I recognize that in my journey of aging, the same things have not, are not working now that have worked before, either as I'm coming out of an injury or as I'm feeling a little bit like days when I feel demotivated so I'm having to shift.
Ingke Chi:And one of the things I just realized is the stretching seems to be more vital now than it's ever been in the past.
Ingke Chi:But, but, but when you talk about mobility, like what, what is actually what's behind that?
Ingke Chi:Can you double click on that?
Funk Roberts:Sure.
Funk Roberts:So when I started the over, first of all, when I started the Over 40 Alpha Brotherhood program, I started that my goal was to help men transform.
Funk Roberts:But I knew that it's an online program so you know, they click on the link, it's follow along workouts.
Funk Roberts:But one of the key things I was thinking was, listen, I can't, I gotta make sure these guys don't get injured.
Funk Roberts:Because the last thing I want is for people to say, hey, I'm doing Funk Roberts programs and I got injured, right.
Funk Roberts:So I implemented things like yoga, mobility, flexibility on like the Tuesday and Wednesday, so Tuesday and Thursday.
Funk Roberts:So two days of the week we focus on recovery.
Funk Roberts:Like I mentioned mobility.
Funk Roberts:And that's just because we're closed, right?
Funk Roberts:We're, we're, we're always closed, whether it's driving, whether, you know, we're on our phones.
Funk Roberts:And for men, you know, that's not something we've leaned into throughout the years in our 20s, 30s, 40s, right?
Funk Roberts:Like that's not something we're like, oh yeah, let's go do some mobility.
Funk Roberts:Let's go, you know, do some open, open up the thoracic spine.
Funk Roberts:Let's do some balance Right.
Funk Roberts:But as we get older, joint pains.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Shoulders, elbows, wrists, back, knee, hips, very, very tight, and that leads to injuries.
Funk Roberts:So the number one thing for me when I started this whole process was ensuring that I implemented that.
Funk Roberts:But for me, myself, it's ongoing.
Funk Roberts:Every morning, mobility, after we go for hikes, mobility, Tuesdays and Thursdays, mobility and mobility.
Funk Roberts:When I say mobility, I mean yoga, mobility, flexibility, hyperbolic stretching, which is kind of like extended stretches, things that are going to help me stay injury free and pain free, and that's that, because that catches up to us as we get older.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Ingke Chi:And do you also, like.
Ingke Chi:Do you.
Ingke Chi:Do you subscribe to massages?
Ingke Chi:Do you do physiotherapy?
Ingke Chi:Like, where does that fit into your routines?
Funk Roberts:So for me, I don't.
Funk Roberts:I don't do massage.
Funk Roberts:I don't do physiotherapy just because I have that.
Funk Roberts:That routine dialed in.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:It's one of those things that's like.
Funk Roberts:It's like part of my lifestyle.
Funk Roberts:Like, if I do this, then I will be in physiotherapy.
Funk Roberts:If I don't do this, I will need massages.
Funk Roberts:But massages aren't bad.
Funk Roberts:I always tell my guys, like, lean into that stuff.
Funk Roberts:If you have access to massages, lean into.
Funk Roberts:You know, obviously the mobility and recovery is part of a program, but that.
Funk Roberts:That's like, one.
Funk Roberts:One of the things we always say is mobil that recovery piece, the physical recovery piece is just as important as the workouts.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:That's a mindset shift for most men.
Funk Roberts:Men don't.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Because it's not the sexy thing.
Funk Roberts:It's not.
Funk Roberts:I want to build muscle.
Funk Roberts:I want to get jacked.
Funk Roberts:It's more like, oh, I gotta do something that's very difficult, very humbling, very hard.
Funk Roberts:But they feel great.
Funk Roberts:I feel great.
Funk Roberts:You know, waking up in the morning without your back tight or.
Funk Roberts:You know what I mean?
Funk Roberts:And being able to move a lot better during the day.
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:You know, you go on vacation, you want to go for a hike, you want to enjoy your vacation without saying, I'm knee, I gotta bum back, or whatever it is.
Funk Roberts:So, yeah.
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Ingke Chi:I say my husband is actually, I'm gonna say it's probably in Covid when he discovered that, but he does way better than me, actually.
Ingke Chi:I'm trying to gain some inspiration from him.
Ingke Chi:Stretches every single day.
Ingke Chi:He goes down, does the rolling, and he can roll for a long time.
Ingke Chi:And.
Ingke Chi:And.
Ingke Chi:And to your point, he stretches and.
Ingke Chi:And it's not the cool and sexy thing, but he sees the The.
Ingke Chi:The importance of it.
Ingke Chi:So, so continuing along, like physical health and the topic of aging, what are some of the biggest challenges that men over 40 face when it comes to maintaining their health?
Ingke Chi:And if I kind of use, let's just say Covid, because a lot of people use this as an anchor point, how is.
Ingke Chi:How have these challenges really evolved in the recent years?
Funk Roberts:So challenge.
Funk Roberts:The challenges have not evolved.
Funk Roberts:They're actually the same challenges that most men have when I was 30.
Funk Roberts:So I'm gonna take it back to something personal because the reason why I decided to focus more on men over 40 is because I understand their challenges.
Funk Roberts:Not from.
Funk Roberts:Because I'm a fitness expert, but because I actually had those exact same challenges.
Funk Roberts:Right, so what are they?
Funk Roberts:Well, belly fat, right?
Funk Roberts:You're adding all this belly fat from, you know, just inactivity, hormonal, your hormones decrease.
Funk Roberts:So Testosterone, the number one male hormone.
Funk Roberts:So after the age of 30, testosterone decreases 1 to 2% every single year.
Funk Roberts:Now, testosterone is our number one male hormone.
Funk Roberts:So we need that to be as high as we can.
Funk Roberts:And unfortunately, testosterone is the lowest it's been and like, I think pretty much in the modern day times, right?
Funk Roberts:So belly fat storage, not being able to build muscle, so going into the gym and doing workouts that they used to do definitely aren't working.
Funk Roberts:Metabolism slows down, right?
Funk Roberts:So that, that is more.
Funk Roberts:More about lifestyle and less about actual the aging portion of it.
Funk Roberts:But, you know, 20s, 30s, you got a family or focusing on your career and all these things kind of catch up, right?
Funk Roberts:Joint pain, lethargic, so you don't have the energy that you used to.
Funk Roberts:And it's not just about building muscle.
Funk Roberts:There's a lot of people who are like skinny fat, like, they just, they're, you know, they feel weak.
Funk Roberts:And all of this is driven mostly by testosterone, the lack of testosterone that most of these guys have because they haven't lived a life that is going to help them naturally increase.
Funk Roberts:So the biggest thing when I first started my program was belly fat.
Funk Roberts:Men just wanted to lose belly fat, right?
Funk Roberts:I got to lose this belly fat.
Funk Roberts:I need more energy.
Funk Roberts:I need to build muscle, and I don't know what to eat and how to eat because, you know, throughout these years, there's so many different fat diets, restrictive diets, all of these things.
Funk Roberts:Oh, I tried keto, I tried paleo.
Funk Roberts:Morgan's doing this thing working.
Funk Roberts:Dana White's doing this.
Funk Roberts:I tried this one.
Funk Roberts:I tried this one.
Funk Roberts:None of it works for us because we need a diet or a nutrition plan.
Funk Roberts:A, that's a lifestyle.
Funk Roberts:So something that is not temporary.
Funk Roberts:And we need something that's going to help feed our hormones, feed our bodies.
Funk Roberts:Sarcopenia, which is a natural loss of muscle due to aging.
Funk Roberts:So after 35, we suffer from sarcopenia, natural loss of muscle due to aging.
Funk Roberts:Muscle is the organ of life.
Funk Roberts:It is the key to life.
Funk Roberts:You have to be building muscle throughout until you die.
Funk Roberts:Right?
Funk Roberts:And that's going to look different as you get older.
Funk Roberts:But that is like, that muscle is metabolic, so you're going to burn more fat, you're going to be stronger, you're going to be healthier.
Funk Roberts:So all of these things start to happen to men.
Funk Roberts:Late 30s, early 40s.
Funk Roberts:And that happened to me.
Funk Roberts:And it wasn't until I realized that my testosterone levels were low.
Funk Roberts:I had, I went to the doctor, did a physical, followed up.
Funk Roberts:He's like, hey man, you're just.
Funk Roberts:This is the one.
Funk Roberts:I'm 39, so it's a while ago.
Funk Roberts:He's like, hey man, your testosterone levels are the levels of a grandfather.
Funk Roberts:It's like 189 nanograms per deciliter.
Funk Roberts:Usually men's testosterone.
Funk Roberts:600, 700, 800, 900.
Funk Roberts:Mine was 198 or something.
Funk Roberts:And I was a big guy.
Funk Roberts:I was 215 pounds, but I was big and puffy.
Funk Roberts:Like I, I had like puffy muscle syndrome.
Ingke Chi:Okay.
Funk Roberts:Male pms, right?
Funk Roberts:That's a, that's Elliot Hol.
Ingke Chi:I never heard of that.
Funk Roberts:Elliot branded that many, many years ago.
Funk Roberts:Because that's another thing that happens to guys who used to go to the gym.
Funk Roberts:They started to get big and puffy and soft and I don't know what's happening, right?
Funk Roberts:So that was happening.
Funk Roberts:I had a really big belly.
Funk Roberts:My libido was down, no energy.
Funk Roberts:And then I started to get anxiety, depression, suicidal, drugs, alcohol, partying.
Funk Roberts:All of the things that.
Ingke Chi:This is spiral.
Funk Roberts:This is.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, it's a massive spiral.
Funk Roberts:And it was a testosterone.
Funk Roberts:That was key.
Funk Roberts:The doctor was like, okay, so I can put.
Funk Roberts:Now this is what, 15, 16 years ago?
Funk Roberts:So TRT, which is testosterone replacement, called steroids.
Funk Roberts:They're not, they weren't as like prevalent back then, but I knew enough that there's no way I'm gonna take that.
Funk Roberts:Because I was a professional athlete before and testing was big, right.
Funk Roberts:So I'd already known the side effects of, of what testosterone steroids can do to you if you take it exogenous.
Funk Roberts:So you take it outside the body.
Funk Roberts:But I did ask my doctor at that time if I could do this naturally, and he said I could.
Funk Roberts:So that's when I really dug into naturally, increasing my T levels, which I did six months later, and Bloody Dolly died.
Funk Roberts:Now I'm helping men over 40 over the last six years, but I understand their struggle, right.
Funk Roberts:Because most, most guys will see me and think that, oh, you know, he's been like that forever, or this is genetics, or he doesn't understand where I'm coming from.
Funk Roberts:When I tell them my story, I go deep into my story.
Funk Roberts:It's.
Funk Roberts:It's like a mirror, right?
Funk Roberts:Mirror to what they're.
Funk Roberts:What they're struggling with.
Funk Roberts:And that's when I knew that after looking around to see if there was any programs or any information for men over 40, there still wasn't six years ago.
Funk Roberts:And even to today, there isn't as much.
Funk Roberts:It's usually for women over 40, it's not.
Ingke Chi:Yes, there's a lot for women, all.
Funk Roberts:Kinds, but barely men over 40.
Funk Roberts:Barely.
Funk Roberts:And so six years ago is when I started the program.
Funk Roberts:Six years later.
Funk Roberts:Thousands and thousands.
Funk Roberts:I'm talking thousands and thousands of transformations.
Funk Roberts:Like, and not just before and afters, but just life transformations.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Their relationship with their kids, with their wives, you know, things that they're doing in their 60s, 70s that they've never done before.
Funk Roberts:And so knowing that, you know, it can be done naturally, but it's just leaning into the lifestyle but also understanding where they're at makes it a little bit easier for me to connect with them.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:For them to kind of trust, because it is something different, it's something new.
Funk Roberts:And it's not sexy.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:It's not like, hey, man, I'm doing this type of, like, no one's heard of the Meta test boost system, but that's what everyone does in the program.
Funk Roberts:Every.
Ingke Chi:Oh, everyone has.
Ingke Chi:Is it.
Ingke Chi:Is it an entrance requirement?
Funk Roberts:Well, no, yeah, it's just.
Funk Roberts:It's just the, the pillars of our.
Ingke Chi:Yeah, yeah, listen, we got.
Funk Roberts:We got ourselves a tribe, so we know, you know, you know, that's how it is if, you know, you know.
Ingke Chi:And so.
Ingke Chi:Wow.
Ingke Chi:Well, thank you for that.
Ingke Chi:Because the next question I was going to ask you was about the work that you do around testosterone.
Ingke Chi:Because I think if anything, there's not very many men that I hear other than you really talking about it.
Ingke Chi:And I'm pretty sure there's a lot of myths around that still.
Ingke Chi:And so what are some of those myths that you think are tripping up men today?
Funk Roberts:Yeah, so the biggest myth would be that you can't increase Your testosterone levels naturally.
Funk Roberts:That's really the biggest myth.
Funk Roberts:Again, I'm gonna.
Funk Roberts:I'm always gonna go back to six years ago, because that's when I started this journey.
Funk Roberts:But six years ago, when I started the journey, I was leading with testosterone, thinking that most men knew that testosterone is our number one male hormone.
Funk Roberts:It's responsible for everything, overall health, everything that we are as a man.
Funk Roberts:Not just us being a man, but our health.
Funk Roberts:It's really important.
Funk Roberts:But no one seemed to understand that.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:It was.
Funk Roberts:It wasn't something that there were guys that didn't even know what testosterone was.
Funk Roberts:So I'm like, oh, wait a minute.
Funk Roberts:They don't even know what that is.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:And then again, looking out to see there's no wonder, because no one's really talking about testosterone.
Funk Roberts:They talk about the negative.
Ingke Chi:Yes, it's awesome.
Funk Roberts:Like, it's.
Funk Roberts:It's toxic.
Funk Roberts:It makes men toxic.
Funk Roberts:That's another myth.
Funk Roberts:But they don't talk about the fact that it's.
Funk Roberts:Aren't.
Funk Roberts:It's what makes us.
Funk Roberts:If we don't have testosterone, it's over.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:So.
Funk Roberts:So some of the myths that we see today, moving to.
Funk Roberts:To today is that, yeah, you can't naturally increase testosterone.
Funk Roberts:Like, you can't do it without exogenous testosterone.
Funk Roberts:It's trt.
Funk Roberts:And I see a lot of fitness people, experts, talk more about the TRT and less about how to naturally do this.
Funk Roberts:How to do this with nutrition, with workouts, with recovery, with sleep.
Funk Roberts:Like, all of the things that would make you healthy to begin with, but also increase testosterone, balance your hormones, you know, decrease estrogen and get you healthy, as healthy as you can, because you're living that lifestyle.
Funk Roberts:The byproduct is going to be the physical changes.
Funk Roberts:The byproducts are going to be energy and less anxiety and more confidence and all of those things.
Funk Roberts:That's.
Funk Roberts:That's probably the biggest thing.
Funk Roberts:And I think now that TRT is becoming more commercial, you know, like, more people, more fitness, guys are now saying, oh, yeah, no, I take trt.
Funk Roberts:Oh, yeah, I'm with this clinic because, you know, there's a lot of money in that, involved in that industry.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, that's.
Funk Roberts:That's.
Funk Roberts:That's a little.
Funk Roberts:It's not really frustrating, but it's frustrating.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Ingke Chi:It's something that you have to work through.
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:And I mean, it's not something huge because, again, I'm really focusing on the guys who are struggling.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:The guys.
Ingke Chi:Yeah, yeah.
Funk Roberts:Who just don't really know about the testosterone thing.
Funk Roberts:It's Mostly when they start listening to all of these podcasts and this person, that person, their doctors telling them to go on it, that's when they come back and ask questions.
Funk Roberts:But that's really the biggest thing.
Funk Roberts:The other thing, too, is the toxicity that comes along with having a lot of testosterone.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Which is not true whatsoever.
Funk Roberts:It's our number one male hormone.
Funk Roberts:We need it.
Ingke Chi:Like, it's that they're, like, more angry, they're more aggressive.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, no, not.
Funk Roberts:Not when you naturally increase your testosterone.
Funk Roberts:It's maybe when you're jacking a whole bunch of stuff into you, but that's.
Funk Roberts:That's not the case.
Funk Roberts:So those two things are really, really key.
Funk Roberts:And yeah, those are.
Funk Roberts:Those are probably the two biggest.
Ingke Chi:Ms.
Ingke Chi:And somebody that's listening to this, what might be some early warning signs that they can.
Ingke Chi:That they can sort of, oh, maybe I need to go and get my levels checked.
Ingke Chi:What would that look like?
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:So low libido, number one.
Funk Roberts:So no sex drive.
Funk Roberts:Belly fat, right?
Funk Roberts:Belly fat's huge.
Funk Roberts:Can't build muscle.
Funk Roberts:Low energy, low drive.
Funk Roberts:Okay.
Funk Roberts:That's a lot change in changing.
Funk Roberts:Change in your.
Funk Roberts:Your just.
Funk Roberts:Just your.
Funk Roberts:Your everyday.
Funk Roberts:What's the word?
Ingke Chi:Looking for temperament.
Funk Roberts:Yes, thank you.
Funk Roberts:Your temperament, like, it goes up and down.
Funk Roberts:Anxiety, depression, just.
Funk Roberts:No drive.
Funk Roberts:All of those.
Funk Roberts:It's pretty much what most men struggle with right now, like, specifically in their 40s.
Funk Roberts:I mean, it's starting earlier, unfortunately, but in the 40s, specifically.
Ingke Chi:Okay, man, go and get yourselves checked.
Ingke Chi:So maybe this one, this next question in, like, cultural expectations of.
Ingke Chi:Of masculinity and the.
Ingke Chi:In the impact that that has on men taking care of their health.
Ingke Chi:You know, what, what do you believe?
Ingke Chi:Like, what's the.
Ingke Chi:How does that play into all of this?
Funk Roberts:So my hat.
Funk Roberts:Those people who are seeing this is provide, protect, provide, protect, procreate.
Funk Roberts:Be the king of our kingdoms.
Funk Roberts:This is our Alpha virtue.
Ingke Chi:Okay?
Funk Roberts:This is something that, as much as the fitness side of the things were a.
Funk Roberts:A driver for me, creating the over 40 alpha brotherhood was more about me making men responsible again.
Funk Roberts:Making men men again.
Funk Roberts:Right, because we're using our men to suicide, to just, you know, in general.
Funk Roberts:And we need men to be providers, protectors, procreators, and be that king of their kingdom.
Funk Roberts:So where does health fit in?
Funk Roberts:Well, where does.
Funk Roberts:Where does health fit?
Funk Roberts:Well, you can't do any of those things unless you're healthy, right?
Funk Roberts:Like, you know, we need.
Funk Roberts:If we're not healthy.
Funk Roberts:Here's.
Funk Roberts:Here's a.
Funk Roberts:Here's.
Funk Roberts:Here's an example.
Funk Roberts:The last Thing as a man, 40, 50, 60, whatever that you want is that because of your.
Funk Roberts:Because of your inability to take care of your health that you're the one ending up in the hospital and it's your family that has to come to the hospital and take care of you?
Funk Roberts:You're draining your family's energy.
Funk Roberts:You're draining your bank account.
Funk Roberts:You're draining the emotions.
Funk Roberts:Like, that's not what you need to do.
Funk Roberts:Like, you're.
Funk Roberts:You're supposed to be the one there.
Funk Roberts:That's.
Funk Roberts:That's taking care of everybody else.
Funk Roberts:But a lot of times, isn't that.
Ingke Chi:Also a cultural expectation that men are supposed to do that?
Funk Roberts:And then 100, 100.
Funk Roberts:That's exactly what we are supposed to do.
Funk Roberts:We're supposed to provide, protect, procreate.
Funk Roberts:And procreating doesn't just mean making kids.
Funk Roberts:It means, you know, connecting with.
Funk Roberts:If it's the woman of, you know, your queen and creating that environment with your queen, with your partner, women, with respect, like, you know, looking for solutions, not problems.
Funk Roberts:Like, we have a whole ton of virtues that we follow that help us to be the best man we can be for ourselves, for our families, and for the community around us.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:To help others, lift others up.
Funk Roberts:A lot.
Funk Roberts:You know, we've gone through a lot where we have, you know, let go of a lot of our responsibilities.
Funk Roberts:Right?
Funk Roberts:And.
Funk Roberts:And.
Funk Roberts:And that's catching up to a lot of guys in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, because we don't take care of the things that we should have, let alone all the things that have happened to us when we were younger.
Funk Roberts:So health.
Funk Roberts:Health is going to be the key to that.
Funk Roberts:Because even if health is not the number one value, like, for myself and my amazing, beautiful wife Angela, in our vows, we talked about health and that being our number one value.
Funk Roberts:So we both value health equally.
Funk Roberts:So we understand that that's our number one thing, but I understand that that's not everyone's number one.
Ingke Chi:Yes.
Funk Roberts:But if it's kids, you got to be healthy to be able to run around with your kids, to take them here and there, to be that, you know, role model like you as a f.
Funk Roberts:The mother, the household.
Funk Roberts:Those are the role models.
Funk Roberts:Not the teacher, not the freaking football player.
Ingke Chi:Yes.
Ingke Chi:Yes.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:You have to be that person who your kids look up to.
Funk Roberts:You have to be that man who your daughter looks up to to say, okay, this is what I want my husband to be like my dad.
Funk Roberts:Right?
Funk Roberts:I want, you know, like, you got to be there, and that means you got to be healthy.
Funk Roberts:If it's money, if money is what you value, then you still have to be healthy to be able to show up and, you know, go to work or have the energy or the confidence or take risks, whatever that may be.
Funk Roberts:So whatever you value in life, health is always going to be the anchor.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Health is always going to be the anchor for you to, to perform at the best you can.
Ingke Chi:Yeah, that's.
Funk Roberts:There's no if, ands or what's about it.
Funk Roberts:And again, like, it's not like I'm just talking about this stuff.
Funk Roberts:The, the case studies and the changes, and even when the wives of the guys in my program contact me, like, man, you have changed my husband.
Funk Roberts:It's.
Funk Roberts:It's been incredible.
Funk Roberts:You know, it's, it's.
Funk Roberts:Those are the things that drive me.
Funk Roberts:Right?
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:And, and even the, you know, I have a.
Funk Roberts:I want to just tell a quick little story.
Funk Roberts:I don't know how much time we have, but.
Ingke Chi:No, no, please, please.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:One of my.
Funk Roberts:I'm not gonna tell my members.
Funk Roberts:Name one of my members.
Funk Roberts:He.
Funk Roberts:He took it.
Funk Roberts:So this happened probably about six or seven months ago because I have coaching calls every week, a group.
Funk Roberts:So he took his kid to, to the park.
Funk Roberts:So they're playing in the park and it's really hot.
Funk Roberts:So he takes off his shirt and now he has a six pack, right?
Funk Roberts:He's like 50 years old, but he has a six pack.
Funk Roberts:So he takes off his shirt.
Funk Roberts:Kids are playing.
Funk Roberts:And then the other kids look at the one kid and goes, oh, my God, who's that?
Funk Roberts:Who's that?
Funk Roberts:Then the kid says, that's my dad.
Funk Roberts:And when, when he saw his son say that and the look on his face, the proud look amongst all these other kids, that.
Funk Roberts:That was his father.
Funk Roberts:He broke down and cried.
Funk Roberts:And then on the coaching call, we all were like, oh, my God, stop it, stop it.
Funk Roberts:But those are the, those are the, the things that are life changing, right?
Funk Roberts:Those are the things that, like, okay, what I'm doing is, is great, right?
Funk Roberts:I'm affecting my, my children, I'm affecting my family, I'm affecting the community.
Funk Roberts:I'm affecting whomever I'm.
Funk Roberts:I'm connecting with, right?
Funk Roberts:So it's all health, health.
Ingke Chi:So let me.
Ingke Chi:Just.
Ingke Chi:Because like that moment, that really actually that, that, that felt good.
Ingke Chi:And when you said, like, he broke down, right.
Ingke Chi:Like a.
Ingke Chi:Men hold a lot of emotions internally, I think in, in large part of a bit of the cultural expectation, right?
Ingke Chi:Like, they are, they are meant to be these providers and this.
Ingke Chi:Any other.
Ingke Chi:And It's a lot of pressure, a lot of stress.
Ingke Chi:But so how do you crack the code of vulnerability?
Ingke Chi:Like, I see you stand in front of your story.
Ingke Chi:You've.
Ingke Chi:I mean, I don't know how many years ago I heard it, but you've always stood in front of your story.
Ingke Chi:And I know sometimes it's like, it's that whole, if people see you doing it, it gives them permission to do the same for their lives.
Ingke Chi:But men's vulnerability, the masculine, masculine, like, a lot of that's coming more into mainstream and men trying to be a little bit more vulnerable.
Ingke Chi:But how do you.
Ingke Chi:How do you help your clients just become a little bit, Take off some of that edge and be okay with their vulnerability?
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:So part of this virtue is about being vulnerable, knowing when to be vulnerable.
Funk Roberts:The lion, the lamb, knowing that it's okay.
Funk Roberts:Listen, at our age, we've gone through, there's nobody in.
Funk Roberts:No man in a 40s, 50, 60, 70, has been unscathed, has come out unscathed.
Funk Roberts:We all have stuff that we need to take care of.
Funk Roberts:So one of the big things that we talk about and that I'm a huge proponent on is they need to go talk to somebody.
Funk Roberts:Because what generally happens with men is in their teens, in their 20s, in their 30s, like you said, they push this stuff down.
Funk Roberts:I gotta keep this mask on.
Funk Roberts:I gotta keep this.
Funk Roberts:This macho mask, or I just got to keep this mask on to show that, you know, I can handle this.
Funk Roberts:I can't ask for help.
Funk Roberts:I got to keep pushing all of this stuff down.
Funk Roberts:All this negative things that may have happened to me when I was younger or things that I may have done.
Funk Roberts:I got to keep it down and show that I'm.
Funk Roberts:I'm, you know, I can.
Funk Roberts:I can handle it.
Funk Roberts:Oh, I'm good.
Funk Roberts:I'm good.
Funk Roberts:I'm good.
Funk Roberts:I'm good.
Funk Roberts:I'm good.
Funk Roberts:How you doing, brother?
Funk Roberts:I'm good.
Funk Roberts:I'm good.
Funk Roberts:That's like a, you know, that's a cultural thing for us.
Funk Roberts:I mean, I hear all the time, but I'm good, I'm good.
Funk Roberts:You're not good.
Ingke Chi:Any good.
Funk Roberts:I know they are good.
Funk Roberts:They're not good.
Funk Roberts:So anyway, so what starts to happen when you're 40?
Funk Roberts:What I'm seeing now, because of as many of the men I've worked with, is that all of this stuff that you've been pushing down for years now starts to come up.
Funk Roberts:Why do you think we got so much suicide and depression and anxiety?
Funk Roberts:It's not covet that's that's not why.
Funk Roberts:It's because we.
Funk Roberts:When you start getting older and you don't have the tools and don't use the tools or resources to take care of the things from the past, that starts to creep up.
Funk Roberts:You start to sabotage yourself, you sabotage your decisions, you sabotage the people around you.
Funk Roberts:And then you start.
Funk Roberts:That starts to lead down a very dark, depressed and.
Funk Roberts:And.
Funk Roberts:And, you know, a road that ends up in death ends up in suicide.
Funk Roberts:So one of the biggest things that.
Funk Roberts:The reason why I tell my story and.
Funk Roberts:And, you know, I just don't hide anything for me, because I know that the most powerful person in the room is a person that does.
Funk Roberts:Has nothing to hide.
Funk Roberts:Like, I'm.
Funk Roberts:I'm sitting back here, you know, feet up.
Funk Roberts:Everyone's kind of trying to posture here and there.
Funk Roberts:Like, man, what are you gonna say about me?
Funk Roberts:You already know everything about me.
Funk Roberts:You know my darks, you know my lights, you know everything.
Funk Roberts:So it's about getting help.
Funk Roberts:That's the number one thing.
Funk Roberts:And this is not.
Funk Roberts:This is cultural wide.
Funk Roberts:I've had guys in my podcast, Latino, Asian, all of these men from different cultures who deal with masculinity, right?
Funk Roberts:That masculinity that we need to lean into.
Funk Roberts:But the problem is we now need to be vulnerable, ask for help.
Funk Roberts:But it's not something that happens like this.
Funk Roberts:You can't just say, hey, man, you got to be more vulnerable.
Funk Roberts:Like, what does that mean?
Funk Roberts:What if I kept things down for 40 years?
Funk Roberts:How do you expect me to just all of a sudden let it all out?
Funk Roberts:Like, that's not natural for me because I don't know how to do it.
Funk Roberts:If I want to lift weights, I go to the gym.
Funk Roberts:When I first walk into the gym, if I've never lifted weights before and I'm, okay, go lift weights, I'll be like, what do I do?
Funk Roberts:What do I do?
Funk Roberts:Right?
Funk Roberts:Oh, I need you to eat healthy.
Funk Roberts:Go eat healthy.
Funk Roberts:What do I eat?
Funk Roberts:What do I eat?
Funk Roberts:Like, you're not going to know.
Funk Roberts:So you need some guidance.
Funk Roberts:You need some help to take you through.
Funk Roberts:Okay, let's go step by step.
Funk Roberts:It's going to be a little uncomfortable.
Funk Roberts:It's going to actually be very uncomfortable.
Funk Roberts:But we have to let go of the things that we're holding on to, whether we're holding onto it consciously or unconsciously.
Funk Roberts:And we need help with that.
Funk Roberts:So that's why I tell them, go talk to somebody.
Funk Roberts:Get a therapist.
Funk Roberts:Get someone who has no connection to you.
Funk Roberts:Not your friends, not your wife, not your Kids, someone has no connection to you because they're going to hear the things you're saying and they're going to tell you what they say.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:And that's what we need.
Funk Roberts:We need someone who we have, you know, we can sit down and just.
Funk Roberts:They're gonna, they're gonna guide us because they're the expert, right.
Funk Roberts:They're the therapist or what have you, the professional.
Funk Roberts:And that'll allow us to start unpacking.
Funk Roberts:Here's the onion.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:We want to get back to the core of who we are.
Funk Roberts:Start peeling back the onion.
Funk Roberts:And when we start to peel back the onion, when we start to, to.
Funk Roberts:To let go of things in the past, whether it was things that happened to us.
Funk Roberts:Because I'm finding more and more men have had a lot of things happen.
Funk Roberts:I mean, we're Gen X, right?
Funk Roberts:We're.
Funk Roberts:There were no phones and computers and none of that stuff back in the day.
Funk Roberts:So a lot of crap has happened to a lot of men in all cultures.
Funk Roberts:So the more we can let go of things in the past that aren't helping us move forward, the more we can add the good stuff.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Start adding the good things.
Funk Roberts:Oh, there's room for.
Funk Roberts:Because right now there's no room.
Ingke Chi:Yeah, right.
Ingke Chi:That's.
Funk Roberts:Hold on to it.
Funk Roberts:We isolate and then that's it.
Funk Roberts:But we've gotta let go.
Funk Roberts:We've got to be part of being a, a man.
Funk Roberts:Part of being, you know, part of leaning into the alpha.
Funk Roberts:Virtue is asking for help when you need help, knowing that you cannot do it alone.
Funk Roberts:Leaning on a community of other guys in the same journey as you and using them as, as, as your support.
Funk Roberts:The, the other thing I love about the Brotherhood is like, these guys are from, like we in inside.
Funk Roberts:So my, my program is a membership site.
Funk Roberts:Like it's a three year program.
Funk Roberts:They just go and do it on their own.
Funk Roberts:But we have.
Funk Roberts:Okay, but we have a Facebook community.
Funk Roberts:It's called the Brotherhood.
Funk Roberts:That's the community.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Ingke Chi:Okay.
Funk Roberts:And everyone connects in the community.
Funk Roberts:We don't talk politics, we don't talk religion, we don't talk pop culture.
Funk Roberts:Like none of that stuff is in.
Funk Roberts:It's all about us becoming the best men we can be physically, emotionally and spiritually.
Funk Roberts:But we also have men from all over the world.
Funk Roberts:Literally all over the world.
Funk Roberts:Africa, India, Toronto, Australia.
Funk Roberts:All colors, all race, all backgrounds.
Funk Roberts:And everyone in that, in that brotherhood call each other brothers.
Funk Roberts:Why?
Funk Roberts:Because we're all on the same journey.
Funk Roberts:We focus on our, on our.
Funk Roberts:On.
Funk Roberts:We don't focus on Our differences, we focus on our similarities.
Funk Roberts:And you always see guys saying, man, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, like that.
Funk Roberts:It's a common word that gets used, man.
Funk Roberts:And in the brotherhood, because we do love each other.
Funk Roberts:We.
Funk Roberts:We are brothers in arms.
Funk Roberts:We're all understanding the journey that we're on because we all started phase one, phase two, phase three, phase four.
Funk Roberts:So we all started the same place, but we're.
Funk Roberts:We all understand that we need to be the men we need to be.
Funk Roberts:So whenever.
Funk Roberts:You know, whenever something happens, someone dies in their family or, you know, something tragic happens, whatever it is, they're changing.
Ingke Chi:They have that space.
Funk Roberts:They couldn't.
Funk Roberts:I tell them, you got to come in here because when you're.
Funk Roberts:When you're with your family or what have you, you do have to be the guy who's like, okay, don't worry, Brenda, don't worry.
Funk Roberts:I'll be good.
Funk Roberts:Okay, Bob.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, yeah.
Funk Roberts:You.
Funk Roberts:You do this on.
Funk Roberts:On Phyllis, you can cry over here.
Funk Roberts:You guys do this.
Funk Roberts:I gotta get with all this stuff.
Funk Roberts:Ready?
Funk Roberts:Like, yes.
Funk Roberts:That's a lot of work that you have to do, but you need to dump that.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Because your cup is getting.
Funk Roberts:Your cup is decreasing, decreasing, decreasing.
Funk Roberts:So you come into the brotherhood, guys, man, I had a really tough week this week, man.
Funk Roberts:This is what happened.
Funk Roberts:This is what happened, man.
Funk Roberts:I need you.
Funk Roberts:I just want some support.
Funk Roberts:I just need to get this out now.
Funk Roberts:They're out, right?
Funk Roberts:Because when you write things down.
Funk Roberts:I know I'm going all over this.
Funk Roberts:When you write things down on paper, it's out, right?
Funk Roberts:It comes in light.
Funk Roberts:It doesn't.
Ingke Chi:No, this is great.
Ingke Chi:And I don't.
Ingke Chi:Trust me.
Ingke Chi:I was like, well, we're over the time.
Ingke Chi:But I.
Ingke Chi:I thought that that was so.
Ingke Chi:I think that that's so important is just that men.
Ingke Chi:There are spaces where men can find that.
Ingke Chi:Now, I do have to ask as a parting.
Ingke Chi:Maybe this is the parting question.
Ingke Chi:I did.
Ingke Chi:I.
Ingke Chi:If I can.
Ingke Chi:I have one more.
Ingke Chi:If I can get, like, one more minute of your time, you can get.
Funk Roberts:An hour of my time as.
Ingke Chi:As a woman.
Funk Roberts:Yes.
Ingke Chi:Because as you were talking, I think it's very easy in your position to sell and, like, suggest to another guy.
Ingke Chi:Hey, brother, I think, you know, you can really.
Ingke Chi:You really need some help.
Ingke Chi:Do you have some advice for women how we can help guide our men to get help?
Funk Roberts:You can't.
Funk Roberts:You cannot guide your man to get help.
Funk Roberts:You can't.
Funk Roberts:It's not happening.
Funk Roberts:It's not happening because it's not your.
Funk Roberts:It's not.
Funk Roberts:It's not your fault.
Funk Roberts:I'm not saying that.
Funk Roberts:That's not your job.
Funk Roberts:Listen, you didn't.
Funk Roberts:You didn't marry a man to be their mother.
Ingke Chi:No, I know that.
Funk Roberts:And to be the partner and.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Imagine now, you know, Sorry, I shouldn't say that.
Ingke Chi:That's a partner.
Ingke Chi:You're like, brendan, I got you, man.
Ingke Chi:You must be going through something.
Ingke Chi:You must.
Ingke Chi:You have a lot on your plate.
Ingke Chi:You.
Ingke Chi:You need somewhere to release it.
Ingke Chi:Like.
Ingke Chi:Like that.
Ingke Chi:That's the kind of the angle I'm coming from.
Ingke Chi:Not a motherly, but like, like, dude, you're going through a lot.
Ingke Chi:Like, you, like, you're not talking to me.
Ingke Chi:You gotta.
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Okay, so I'm gonna backtrack a little bit.
Funk Roberts:If you have a relationship.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:That's been like this, where you can talk to each other and communicate with each other that way, 100.
Funk Roberts:That's a great idea to say, listen, just go talk to them.
Funk Roberts:It's going to be very difficult because you guys.
Funk Roberts:But you know your partner.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:So for most of the men that I work with, they don't have that relationship with their wives.
Funk Roberts:Okay.
Funk Roberts:And that's because they're.
Funk Roberts:When they come into the program, they're at rock bottom, man.
Funk Roberts:Physically, most.
Funk Roberts:It's not like their wives may have already been telling them to go to a program.
Funk Roberts:So that.
Funk Roberts:That a little bit of a friction.
Funk Roberts:Not everybody, believe me, not everybody.
Funk Roberts:But there's a lot of, like, resurgence of the relationship after they start to transform.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:They got to work on themselves.
Funk Roberts:And it's very difficult now if you have a relationship where the two of you are incredible together and you communicate and you've been, you know, that.
Funk Roberts:That rocks rock.
Funk Roberts:The solid, solid rock for.
Funk Roberts:For each other, then 100.
Funk Roberts:Yes.
Funk Roberts:I mean, that would be natural to say, listen, you gotta.
Funk Roberts:You gotta go talk to somebody.
Funk Roberts:But again, sometimes men don't like that.
Funk Roberts:They feel like they're weak.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Like, you're tapping into the weakness of, like, oh, well, I don't have to talk to somebody.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Because again, we are.
Funk Roberts:We're from another ear.
Funk Roberts:Like, right now.
Funk Roberts:Like, if we were.
Funk Roberts:Jen, whatever it is right now, it's more acceptable to do that stuff.
Funk Roberts:It's more millennial.
Ingke Chi:Like the millennium.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:It's more acceptable.
Funk Roberts:Talk about mental health issues and stuff.
Funk Roberts:But we're old school, man.
Funk Roberts:We're still not there.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:So I think.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, I think just.
Funk Roberts:Just being there to support the process, it's gonna be really, really key.
Funk Roberts:But telling your Husband.
Funk Roberts:I mean.
Funk Roberts:I mean, like I said, if you have that.
Ingke Chi:I said suggesting.
Ingke Chi:I didn't say I'm coming in, because I'm sure there's some women that are sitting here saying, man, how do I get my husband into that program?
Funk Roberts:Yeah, well, here's.
Funk Roberts:Here's another.
Funk Roberts:Here's another example of where that.
Funk Roberts:Where the communication gets a little bit.
Funk Roberts:Stick stuck, sticky.
Funk Roberts:I had a guy in my program who, for.
Funk Roberts:He came in at, like, 300 pounds, stayed in it for about five months, just lost his job, 500 pounds.
Funk Roberts:Connection with his wife, not there.
Funk Roberts:Goes through about five months, like, transforms.
Funk Roberts:I think he lost, like, 50 or 60 pounds.
Funk Roberts:Feeling good, everything's great.
Funk Roberts:Gets a new job, right?
Funk Roberts:A new job.
Funk Roberts:He has new confidence.
Funk Roberts:And then he goes, yeah, you know what?
Funk Roberts:I got to quit the program because my.
Funk Roberts:We have to cut costs, right?
Funk Roberts:My wife to cut costs.
Funk Roberts:I'm like, okay, all right.
Funk Roberts:So this is one of the costs that I'm going to cut.
Funk Roberts:I'm like, okay.
Funk Roberts:And I said, are you sure this is the one?
Funk Roberts:You sure this is the one you want to cut?
Funk Roberts:Because you came in at £300, and these are conversations I have.
Funk Roberts:You came at £300.
Funk Roberts:This is what you got to.
Funk Roberts:When you came in, you were struggling.
Funk Roberts:Now you got a new job.
Funk Roberts:Is this really the thing?
Funk Roberts:Like, are you sure your wife.
Funk Roberts:Like, did you even tell your wife this?
Funk Roberts:And he's like, no, no, but, you know, we got to cut costs.
Funk Roberts:So he goes.
Funk Roberts:I said, all right.
Funk Roberts:I let him go.
Funk Roberts:Two days later, he comes back.
Funk Roberts:My wife was pissed off at me that I made that decision to cut this very thing.
Funk Roberts:Because we don't think about that.
Funk Roberts:We don't think about that.
Funk Roberts:We think differently.
Funk Roberts:He's like, my wife was so pissed off.
Funk Roberts:He goes, that this is the only thing that you've done.
Funk Roberts:Why the hell would you, like.
Funk Roberts:It's so funny.
Funk Roberts:It's so funny.
Funk Roberts:I told you.
Funk Roberts:I said, there's no way your wife is gonna watch you to cut this.
Funk Roberts:This is not a big thing.
Funk Roberts:This is sa.
Funk Roberts:Your life.
Funk Roberts:This is saving your life.
Ingke Chi:I can see that.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, totally.
Funk Roberts:It was.
Funk Roberts:It was.
Funk Roberts:It was hilarious, actually.
Ingke Chi:I love that.
Ingke Chi:It's.
Ingke Chi:It's.
Ingke Chi:It would be no different than me.
Ingke Chi:I.
Ingke Chi:And back to what you said earlier, actually, like, very similar to you and Angela.
Ingke Chi:Ethan and I met at the gym.
Ingke Chi:Like, health is, like, other than God, health is our number one.
Ingke Chi:And so they were like, in the times of strife and struggle and cuts, it ain't going to be the gym.
Ingke Chi:It's not our health.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Ingke Chi:It's, it's the other stuff before it even ever comes close to that.
Ingke Chi:So.
Ingke Chi:Wow.
Ingke Chi:Well, I, I, man just, I could go on and on.
Ingke Chi:And so as a parting question, and it's interesting just as a sidebar, one of the other individuals, Jonathan Reed is his name.
Ingke Chi:I interviewed him just before your interview is and he's tackling.
Ingke Chi:He, his has a podcast called the Boycott.
Ingke Chi:And so his whole thing is like when we see men today, like the ang, like sort of the, the angry man, like the angry man, like the violent man is like you, it's harder to fix that.
Ingke Chi:You have to get them when they're boys.
Ingke Chi:And back to your point, it seems like the millennials have figured that out, like getting, getting with nature, talking things out, being, you know, like, like allowing them, allowing themselves to be who they need to be.
Ingke Chi:Like really finding themselves.
Ingke Chi:So I don't want to ask you about your young, like what would you tell younger?
Ingke Chi:But it's like the men, men are beginning to age.
Ingke Chi:And so for all of those men that are sitting here, you know, what does their 70, 80 year old self need to be telling them?
Ingke Chi:Like what's that thinness that they need to be telling them to say, yo, like dude, like start health as well.
Funk Roberts:So start eating healthy, start training, working out, start focusing on your mental health, start leaning in on mobility so that your 70 and 80 year old isn't in a wheelchair, but you're 100 years old doing burpees.
Funk Roberts:Because we're at a point now in the times where we have so much advancements in medicine and science and technology that we don't know.
Funk Roberts:We want to put ourselves in a situation where we can lean into those things 10, 20, 30 years down the road, depending on what that is to help us live, live longer.
Funk Roberts:But your 80 year old self is going to tell you that.
Funk Roberts:Like your 80 year old self is probably going to tell you the same thing that you're 50 or 40 years old.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Be like, man, I should have, should have been stretching when I was.
Ingke Chi:I'm gonna put, I have to, I'm just gonna, I have to like, just, I want to go just a little bit more on this one.
Ingke Chi:Yeah, that's a lot what you just named.
Ingke Chi:And to anyone listening, that could be really overwhelming if they haven't started.
Ingke Chi:Like if they're just so.
Ingke Chi:I'm just like, what's the one?
Ingke Chi:And maybe it's a different journey for everybody.
Ingke Chi:I don't know.
Ingke Chi:I don't want to try to Lead the question.
Ingke Chi:But like, they.
Ingke Chi:Like, without making them feel overwhelmed.
Funk Roberts:Find a program.
Funk Roberts:Find a program.
Funk Roberts:Because you can't do it alone.
Funk Roberts:You can't.
Funk Roberts:You just don't know enough.
Funk Roberts:There's not enough out there.
Funk Roberts:Or there is too much out there.
Funk Roberts:Okay, so you're here and you're hearing this, and I'm supposed to do this, and I just don't know.
Funk Roberts:But you have to find a program.
Funk Roberts:Find a program and lean into it.
Funk Roberts:That's the first thing.
Funk Roberts:And I guess that's the only thing I'm about to say, right?
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Ingke Chi:And I want to say find his program.
Funk Roberts:Yeah, but I mean, just find a program.
Funk Roberts:But if you want a program, I.
Ingke Chi:Want them to find your program.
Funk Roberts:And the reason for the alpha.com why.
Ingke Chi:I will tell you why I want them to find your program is because.
Ingke Chi:And I hate to say this because I'm not trying to.
Ingke Chi:He's not an Instagram, what's called Insta Trainer or whatever.
Ingke Chi:Like the.
Ingke Chi:Whatever.
Ingke Chi:Like those things that just popped up.
Ingke Chi:Like everyone just be popping up and.
Ingke Chi:Expert in this and expert that.
Ingke Chi:Like, he's done the thins.
Ingke Chi:He's gone through the thins, you know, and so.
Ingke Chi:And.
Ingke Chi:And look like the evidence has swallowed any.
Ingke Chi:I love this.
Ingke Chi:Swallow any argument that you can give them about, you know, men's health not being important.
Ingke Chi:His evidence has swallowed any of that argument.
Ingke Chi:And so I do believe I.
Ingke Chi:You are the real deal.
Funk Roberts:Thank you.
Funk Roberts:I appreciate that.
Funk Roberts:That feels great.
Funk Roberts:And listen, it's not about me, by the way.
Funk Roberts:Like, no.
Funk Roberts:I know you're giving me props and we're here, but honestly, my evidence for what this program does is in the thousands of people.
Funk Roberts:The proof, right?
Funk Roberts:The fact that these guys are still with me six years.
Funk Roberts:There's men still in the program six years later.
Funk Roberts:Funk.
Ingke Chi:Wow.
Ingke Chi:Really?
Ingke Chi:Eh.
Funk Roberts:Oh.
Funk Roberts:Thousands and thousands of men are still in this.
Funk Roberts:They don't want to leave because a.
Funk Roberts:They.
Funk Roberts:Aside from the results that they get and just the communication, it's the community, it's the brother.
Funk Roberts:They love the brotherhood.
Funk Roberts:Like, they just.
Funk Roberts:There's.
Funk Roberts:There's guys who go to other programs and still are part of the brotherhood because that's how.
Funk Roberts:That's how powerful that is to be part of, you know, a collective of men who are all on that same journey, who understand each other.
Funk Roberts:And no one.
Funk Roberts:We don't judge anybody.
Funk Roberts:No one gets judged.
Funk Roberts:And that's.
Funk Roberts:I think that's.
Funk Roberts:That's another thing that us men are afraid of is judgment.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:I don't want to be Judged.
Funk Roberts:Listen, brothers, I'm telling you right now, cut.
Funk Roberts:Take off the mask.
Funk Roberts:Because it's not helping you.
Funk Roberts:Take off the mask.
Funk Roberts:I'm giving you empowerment.
Funk Roberts:I'm giving you permission.
Funk Roberts:Take off the mask.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:And talk to somebody.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Funk Roberts:Because every single man in their forties, fifties, sixties, specifically late forties, fifties, 60s, 70s, black, white, red, yellow, or brown, we've all gone through something.
Funk Roberts:So once you start talking about it, you'd be very surprised where everyone else like, yeah, man, same thing.
Funk Roberts:Or, yeah, I'm going through something similar.
Funk Roberts:It's like, oh, man, we could.
Funk Roberts:Man, how come you've never told me about this before?
Funk Roberts:Or, oh, you know, I want to keep it down, but, you know, it's just too much.
Funk Roberts:Like, these are conversations that friends have.
Funk Roberts:Right.
Funk Roberts:Stuff away from them just to feel we, you know, I didn't want you to think I was weak.
Funk Roberts:Are you crazy?
Funk Roberts:You're not weak, man.
Funk Roberts:You're amazing like that.
Ingke Chi:Yes.
Funk Roberts:You gotta just let it out.
Funk Roberts:I'm telling you, they will.
Funk Roberts:Your friends, your.
Funk Roberts:The people who you speak to will look to you more as inspiration and motivation than as weak.
Funk Roberts:Believe me.
Funk Roberts:You're not weak.
Funk Roberts:Yeah.
Ingke Chi:And I actually do like that as a.
Ingke Chi:As a really parting message.
Ingke Chi:I think at the end of the day, even you doing it for yourself, you end up influencing and impacting other lives as well along the way.
Ingke Chi:So, Funk, thank you so much.
Funk Roberts:Thank you.
Funk Roberts:And again, I'm sorry I've been under the weather, but I appreciate it.
Ingke Chi:You don't stop.
Ingke Chi:I'm giving you back that.
Ingke Chi:Sorry.
Ingke Chi:Just take that.
Ingke Chi:Sorry.
Ingke Chi:You were.
Ingke Chi:You were fire.
Ingke Chi:You were fire.
Ingke Chi:You delivered.
Ingke Chi:You.
Ingke Chi:You.
Ingke Chi:You dropped the mic a couple of times.
Ingke Chi:You.
Ingke Chi:You landed the plane on this assignment.
Ingke Chi:And I'm thanking you and so grateful for you.
Ingke Chi:And to everyone that's listening, I trust that you are empowered by this episode.
Ingke Chi:And thank you.
Ingke Chi:Thank you for helping me fill this support, this assignment of bringing Men's Health and the topic to the platform.
Ingke Chi:So thank you.
Funk Roberts:Thank you very much.
Funk Roberts:Appreciate it.
Ingke Chi:And to everyone that's listening or watching, this is where I say we're out.
Ingke Chi:Bye.
Ingke Chi:Yeah.
Ingke Chi:Show those guns.
Ingke Chi:There you have it.
Ingke Chi:I trust you are feeling more empowered in your skin.
Ingke Chi:As the late Dr.
Ingke Chi:Maya Angelou said, when you get, you give, when you learn, you teach.
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